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How do understand the PE set up instruction?
Timlo
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Posted: Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 12:23 PM UTC
It seems quite hard to understand the set up instruction of PE set,not all the part i can understand,can u guys teach me how to understand it??
MLD
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Posted: Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 12:31 PM UTC
Could you be more specific?
Which company?
Which scale?
What specifically are you having trouble understanding... Icon choice - drill, fold, file off-
which way to bend - into or away from the fold- ?
Mike
Which company?
Which scale?
What specifically are you having trouble understanding... Icon choice - drill, fold, file off-
which way to bend - into or away from the fold- ?
Mike
Timlo
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Posted: Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 04:37 PM UTC
Aber PE for Tiger Late,Aber PE for PzIII Ausf L
SS-74
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Posted: Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 06:18 PM UTC
Tim,
Aber instruction can be frustrating to understand. What I do is I will lay it side by side with the kit instruction. I read them carefully, and by the time I start my kit, I pretty much has a mental pic of at which stage I will put on the PE. and you need to jump around a lot. for example if some area, a lot of sanding and handling is required, you probably don't want to attach the tiny PEs.
It's a practice thing, once you get a hand of it, it will be come natural. I don't even look at instruction for PE now when doing German Panzers, after 8 models, you know this stuff, no worry.
Aber instruction can be frustrating to understand. What I do is I will lay it side by side with the kit instruction. I read them carefully, and by the time I start my kit, I pretty much has a mental pic of at which stage I will put on the PE. and you need to jump around a lot. for example if some area, a lot of sanding and handling is required, you probably don't want to attach the tiny PEs.
It's a practice thing, once you get a hand of it, it will be come natural. I don't even look at instruction for PE now when doing German Panzers, after 8 models, you know this stuff, no worry.
Petro
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Posted: Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 06:40 PM UTC
i don't know about Aber Directions, but the Eduard set i used were pretty crappy.
DRAGONWAGON
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Posted: Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 08:52 PM UTC
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i don't know about Aber Directions, but the Eduard set i used were pretty crappy.
It could be me, but I never had any problems with Eduard. Like said before, put the manual next to the model manual...and it all works out fine !!! :-)
I have to say, I do use a "hold & fold" tool.
Greetz, John.
Golikell
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Posted: Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 09:56 PM UTC
Don't forget to check original kit parts. They also may reaveal a lot.
MLD
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Posted: Friday, November 28, 2003 - 12:37 AM UTC
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i don't know about Aber Directions, but the Eduard set i used were pretty crappy.
Old Eduard or the newer longer packages with the resealable baggie?
For my money, the new Eduard instructions are worlds better than the old or even Aber.
The illustrations are larger, the folds are clearer, and the placement is more defined.
Back the the orig poster,
To my thinking, Aber tries to squeeze too much into a single page and tries to include almost TOO many parts. Looking at the gallery over on ML, I see lots of masterbuilder panthers that do not use the whole set.
If you are having trouble getting into a full Aber set, might I suggest getting one of the Eduard Zoom sets, not nescessarily the pre-painted ones, but the somewhat simpler sets.
Besides, this gives you the excuse of buying another kit and etch set for 'practice'...
If nothing else, the Eduard sets, the newer, ones are better illustrated and easier to start with.
Check out the Eduard website www.eduard.cz
There you can see what parts are included and , with Adobe reader free download, look at the instructions as well.
Remember you don't HAVE to use EVERY part. I find myself using at most 3/4th of the parts sometimes 2/3 or so..
A pair of flat jawed pliers from a craft store in the jewelry section work well for folding. Or use 2 razor blades. One to hold the part flat and one to lift it up to the 90degree fold.
blaster76
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Posted: Friday, November 28, 2003 - 09:44 AM UTC
I've used Aber and Eduard and have never used everything. I do save the sheets though and have used excess parts for other things. It is without a doubt the only way to properly use the instructions.....alongside the kit instructions. figure out what you are going to replace/add onto before you tackle it. Taking the time to plan before you start to build saves so much heartburn later on.