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Posted: Monday, July 08, 2013 - 01:26 AM UTC
Hi guys,

How realistic would it be if a M88a2 would lift an 20ft container ( like the new one from Italeri )
Should be a nice diorama !

Gé

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Posted: Monday, July 08, 2013 - 02:48 AM UTC
With a boom lift capacity of 35 tons, the A-Frame of the M88A2 shouldn't have much trouble lifting a container.

However, if you are making a dio of this set-up, though, it should show the M88A2 doing fine adjustment moves as opposed to a longer distance carry of a container. The single point crane and nearby jib booms would not make this a very safe way to move containers even across a parking lot. It would need some guys off to the side with guy ropes to keep the load from swinging so definitely an improvised or emergency way to move a container.

Paul
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Posted: Monday, July 08, 2013 - 03:03 AM UTC

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The single point crane and nearby jib booms would not make this a very safe way to move containers even across a parking lot.


I agree, but some just don't care

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpAUk9WA5Y0

Containers are usually handled with dedicated vehicles like the Caterpillar RTCH :



or the Kalmar RT240 :



Here's a previous related thread

H.P.
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Posted: Monday, July 08, 2013 - 07:26 AM UTC

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The single point crane and nearby jib booms would not make this a very safe way to move containers even across a parking lot.


I agree, but some just don't care

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpAUk9WA5Y0

Yeah, and even someeone who didn't care ( ) leaned the container against the dozer blade to stablise it for moving. You can see the container bob up and down as the vehicle moves. OK as long as you don't mind scratching up the container and I can pretty much bet that the squaddies didn't care at all about the container's paint.

Paul
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Posted: Monday, July 08, 2013 - 07:36 AM UTC

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The single point crane and nearby jib booms would not make this a very safe way to move containers even across a parking lot.


I agree, but some just don't care

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpAUk9WA5Y0

Yeah, and even someeone who didn't care ( ) leaned the container against the dozer blade to stablise it for moving. You can see the container bob up and down as the vehicle moves. OK as long as you don't mind scratching up the container and I can pretty much bet that the squaddies didn't care at all about the container's paint.

Paul


Hi Paul.

Believe me, in the army containers are handled by various equipment. At the end of the day, it is just a box loaded with usefull stuf.
Dutch Airforce Chinooks pilots trained to haul containers from vessel to vessel. And in the Bosnia and Afghanistan we used Leo recovery tanks to carry them around if necessary!
So, if it can lift it, it may be used.
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Posted: Monday, July 08, 2013 - 07:40 AM UTC
I'm sure it has been done somewhere on the ground when there's been nothing proper to use. After all, FOB's aren't kitted out with all the necessary vehicular kit on call whenever they need it and if it's only going short distances, with a sensible crew commander in control, and guys on guy ropes, it wouldn't be too much hassle. Resting it on a dozer blade is also possible as it would give a long edge of support. I've seen allsorts done with single jibs, that in theory shouldn't have been done, but in practice was the only way to do it.
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Posted: Monday, July 08, 2013 - 04:00 PM UTC
Absolutely. Let's face it, how many things are done in the field that the RSM would hemmorage over if they were done on the base in peacetime.

Paul
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Posted: Monday, July 08, 2013 - 06:12 PM UTC
Hi guys,

Thanks for all the input !

Gé

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