Hi Charles
I guess the one in the last two pics is a 75mm SPG indeed. Here's the French 75mm Model 1887 gun :
Looks to be the same gun to me
The SPG in your pics may be of the three FT-based 75mm SPG projects that appeared at the end of 1918 (see here ). Could be the Renault one...
Here are the two others :
75 Chenille STA :
75 Chenille STAV :
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Posted: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - 10:05 PM UTC
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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2013 - 12:20 AM UTC
Just found some corroborating info about French FT-based 75mm SPG projects ( + pics) in this thread :
http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/200193-italian-tanks/page__st__880
HTH
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http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/200193-italian-tanks/page__st__880
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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2013 - 03:08 AM UTC
In fact the thread I've mentioned above refers to the article on Landships.info website some of you may know already...
http://www.landships.info/landships/tank_articles.html?load=tank_articles/Renault_SPGs.html
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http://www.landships.info/landships/tank_articles.html?load=tank_articles/Renault_SPGs.html
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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2013 - 11:22 AM UTC
Good work as always Frenchy.
I’d seen many of those sites and images.
The STA didn’t appeal to me as much visually with all the additional structure. I was drawn to the Renault solution by the cleanness of the design – if faulted operationally.
I’m still confused by this notation, which is the source of my mentioning an Italian connection.
“According to landships site, it was a 105 mm howitzer that was mounted by the Italians on a FT-17, not a 75 mm gun. In the background of the 3rd picture, one can see the tube of a 155 GPF. I don't think that this gun was used by Italy.”
What seems odd to me is that they reference Landships as saying it’s 105mm, while to my reading Landships mentions interest in possibly mounting that caliber in the section intro, but presents all the photos as being examples of 75mm – based on the 9/3/18 specification. Also, I find no reference to Italy in that whole section.
So we have various vague references to Italy, but I don‘t see anything concrete. On the other hand, the suggestion of the suited man in the walled compound wearing the “1930’s hat” could have merit. What nationality are the uniforms? The two military hats appear to be different.
I don’t understand something. The WoT guys seem to spend so much time discussing their inventory and definitions, when do they ever find time to play their game? And, do they actually memorize all that stuff?
I’d seen many of those sites and images.
The STA didn’t appeal to me as much visually with all the additional structure. I was drawn to the Renault solution by the cleanness of the design – if faulted operationally.
I’m still confused by this notation, which is the source of my mentioning an Italian connection.
“According to landships site, it was a 105 mm howitzer that was mounted by the Italians on a FT-17, not a 75 mm gun. In the background of the 3rd picture, one can see the tube of a 155 GPF. I don't think that this gun was used by Italy.”
What seems odd to me is that they reference Landships as saying it’s 105mm, while to my reading Landships mentions interest in possibly mounting that caliber in the section intro, but presents all the photos as being examples of 75mm – based on the 9/3/18 specification. Also, I find no reference to Italy in that whole section.
So we have various vague references to Italy, but I don‘t see anything concrete. On the other hand, the suggestion of the suited man in the walled compound wearing the “1930’s hat” could have merit. What nationality are the uniforms? The two military hats appear to be different.
I don’t understand something. The WoT guys seem to spend so much time discussing their inventory and definitions, when do they ever find time to play their game? And, do they actually memorize all that stuff?
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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2013 - 03:46 PM UTC
Lots of neat ideas for kitbashing the FT 17 . I know I've seen a model of the French 75mm gun out there somewhere . Hopefully the kit will be a best seller and some AM company ( Mirror ) , or maybe even Meng , will produce the rivetted style turret as well .
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We got a necro here
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Posted: Saturday, August 12, 2017 - 07:23 PM UTC
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these are not FT's, but M1917's.
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A few ideas to help Frank out deciding what to do with that second kit.
I also hope they follow-up with a Mk IV and/or Whippet to replace the Emhars.
The Marines had them in China.
Some one had this in his garage for years and it still ran. I drove it out of the garage and onto the low boy.
these are not FT's, but M1917's.
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Posted: Sunday, August 13, 2017 - 03:22 AM UTC
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True, you can see the fuel tank is fitted to left side as was standard on the M1917.
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Quoted TextA few ideas to help Frank out deciding what to do with that second kit.
I also hope they follow-up with a Mk IV and/or Whippet to replace the Emhars.
The Marines had them in China.
Some one had this in his garage for years and it still ran. I drove it out of the garage and onto the low boy.
these are not FT's, but M1917's.
True, you can see the fuel tank is fitted to left side as was standard on the M1917.