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BMP-3E, what does the "E" mean?
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Posted: Saturday, October 26, 2013 - 07:09 AM UTC
Hi guys

Do you know what does the E means? what is the difference between this model and the standard BMP-3?

Thanks

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Posted: Saturday, October 26, 2013 - 07:45 AM UTC
E often stands for Ekranamy (or something similar) which means the vehicle is fitter with an improved protection.
I can't guarantee this is the case here.

Olivier
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Posted: Saturday, October 26, 2013 - 07:59 AM UTC
I may be wrong, but I believe that the "E" designation is a "western" one, and not a soviet/russian designation.
AFAIK, the russian designation for this versión was BMP-2D (from the russian word "desantnaya").
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Posted: Saturday, October 26, 2013 - 08:18 AM UTC
O-o-o-o, I think, our chineese friends have some problems with writing))) We produce БМП-3Ф (BMP-3F), so they could make a mistake and write it as BMP-3E... Look at that BMP: http://www.kurganmash.ru/machines/bmp3/bmp3f/

It looks like a machine frome the boxart:

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Posted: Saturday, October 26, 2013 - 10:20 AM UTC
In Trumpeter's language the E stays for export.
bison126
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Posted: Saturday, October 26, 2013 - 08:31 PM UTC

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I may be wrong, but I believe that the "E" designation is a "western" one, and not a soviet/russian designation.
AFAIK, the russian designation for this versión was BMP-2D (from the russian word "desantnaya").


You're right for the BMP-2 but this topic deals with BMP-3

It won't be the first time a manufacturer gives a fantasy name to a model or simply is confused between local denomination vs western denomination. So in Trumpeter's mind E could also be export.

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Posted: Sunday, October 27, 2013 - 01:18 AM UTC
The Russian word you have used is equivalent to descent meaning airborne, dropped, which is what the d is in the airborne version bmd, boyevaya maschina descentnaya ,combat machine airborne
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Posted: Sunday, October 27, 2013 - 02:34 AM UTC

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I may be wrong, but I believe that the "E" designation is a "western" one, and not a soviet/russian designation.
AFAIK, the russian designation for this versión was BMP-2D (from the russian word "desantnaya").

No, BMP-2D it is standard IFV with added armor plates (dopolnitel'no bronirovannaya)

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Posted: Sunday, October 27, 2013 - 02:39 AM UTC

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O-o-o-o, I think, our chineese friends have some problems with writing))) We produce БМП-3Ф (BMP-3F), so they could make a mistake and write it as BMP-3E... Look at that BMP: http://www.kurganmash.ru/machines/bmp3/bmp3f/

It looks like a machine frome the boxart:


Может это поздняя какая версия. А первая БМП-3Ф была такая. На башне видно волноотражающие щитки.
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/review/9346

As for the letter E in trumpy Boxart. I think it is just mistake. I'm not heard about E version. But maybe Chinese mean export version as EJASONK said.
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Posted: Sunday, October 27, 2013 - 02:59 AM UTC

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Quoted Text

O-o-o-o, I think, our chineese friends have some problems with writing))) We produce БМП-3Ф (BMP-3F), so they could make a mistake and write it as BMP-3E... Look at that BMP: http://www.kurganmash.ru/machines/bmp3/bmp3f/

It looks like a machine frome the boxart:


Может это поздняя какая версия. А первая БМП-3Ф была такая. На башне видно волноотражающие щитки.
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/review/9346


А может, и правда, Е означает "экспортная"?.. И китайцы правы?..

Maybe, E really means Export?.. But I also couldn't find any information about it... BMP-3F must have a shields (wave proyection) at the turret, but they are empty at the boxart...
freddietello
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Posted: Sunday, October 27, 2013 - 04:09 AM UTC
Seems that this is the vehicle represented at the box, but I still can´t say if it´s an F version with some differences with the standard F or an M version with just some of the upgrades.
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Posted: Sunday, October 27, 2013 - 01:11 PM UTC
Hi Guys;

According too Steve Zaloga in his Concord Book on the BMPs the "F" is for the Naval Infantry, and the "M" is for the BMP-3 with the Arena System. The kits that Trumpeter gives you are the Export version, which would be Greece, UAE, South Korea which only has Approx, 30 Vehicles. There were quite a few other Countries that showed some interest,
Thailand, India, Viet Nam, too name just a few. Other Variants are the Rys (Fox) which is a Recon version, and the Anti-Tank versions such as the BMP-3 Kornet. Also there are Recovery Vehicles based on the BMP-3 Chassis.
The other AT version is the Krizantema which is a longer range missile and is far more Lethal as its Radar Guided.

CHEERS; MIKE.
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