I'm working on the Steyr Radio Car conversion from Verlinden. I need to figure out how to properly paint the radios themselves. Anyone have any links to reference material, or can help me identify which model numbers the Verlinden items represent?
Thanks!
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Posted: Monday, December 09, 2013 - 01:41 AM UTC
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Posted: Monday, December 09, 2013 - 02:45 AM UTC
Posted: Monday, December 09, 2013 - 03:00 AM UTC
Thanks, Joseph.
I'd seen that site and spent some time digging through. But I can't seem to find these particular units anywhere. Maybe I'm just missing them...
I'd seen that site and spent some time digging through. But I can't seem to find these particular units anywhere. Maybe I'm just missing them...
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Posted: Monday, December 09, 2013 - 03:23 AM UTC
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Thanks, Joseph.
I'd seen that site and spent some time digging through. But I can't seem to find these particular units anywhere. Maybe I'm just missing them...
Perhaps the detail on these Radios is a bit..... optimistic?
Made-up perhaps?
Or just plain wrong!
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Posted: Monday, December 09, 2013 - 03:48 AM UTC
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Quoted TextThanks, Joseph.
I'd seen that site and spent some time digging through. But I can't seem to find these particular units anywhere. Maybe I'm just missing them...
Perhaps the detail on these Radios is a bit..... optimistic?
Made-up perhaps?
Or just plain wrong!
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Posted: Monday, December 09, 2013 - 03:56 AM UTC
Those photos are from the WWP book, Wireless for the Wehrmacht, aren't they?
Great book and totally worth the investment for painting WWII German radios.
Mike
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Posted: Monday, December 09, 2013 - 04:11 AM UTC
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Those photos are from the WWP book, Wireless for the Wehrmacht, aren't they?
Great book and totally worth the investment for painting WWII German radios.
Mike
To tell you the truth Mike, I googled "German Radio Equipment" and found the photos on the Dub-Dub-Dub. If I would've known that they were from the WWP book, I would've noted that. Thanks for the heads up.
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Posted: Monday, December 09, 2013 - 05:53 AM UTC
Do these colors reflect any specific time frame ie; pre-dark yellow, or post-dark yellow exterior base colors, or were radio components and frames factory painted the same color throughout the war? Or were the mounting frames the same color as whatever the interior hull was, ie; Elfbein for closed vehicles; exterior base color for open vehicles?
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Posted: Monday, December 09, 2013 - 06:19 AM UTC
From what I've seen and read (and some real radios I've had the pleasure to see, touch, etc.):
The radios were manufactured by various companies and subcontractors and did have some different face and case colors - though those presented in the pictures ref'd and given in this thread are perfectly typical examples. Telefunken, Torn, West and AEG all used somewhat different finishes. In addition to these standardized radio-sets, there were servo-motors, power-supplies, junction boxes, and loud-speakers - all of which could be these same colors or other OEM finishes - among them dark green, satin black, and "field gray".
The frame-racks typically seen in vehicles were also mostly standard OEM stuff supplied by different companies (of course! ). These were generally supplied to vehicle-assembly plants by the OEM wearing the prevailing base-coat color of the era - i.e., earlier war and pre-war they were a dunkelgrau-type color (in a satin or apparently even semi-glossy enamel finish, as seen in some interior photos), and in later years, the dunkelgelb-type color. So, there was usually a color-distinction between frame members and contained radios.
Best of my knowledge, these frames / racks were installed into already-finished AFV, and were not repainted to be the prevailing interior elfinbein (in closed hulls) (the same racks were used in open-top vehicles, where they would already match the exterior base-coat, which was also the open, visible interior base-coat).
So... A guy building a 222 or 223 "closed" car would comfortably use the same rack color and radio color(s) as one building a Marder or a 251.
Hope this helps!
Bob
The radios were manufactured by various companies and subcontractors and did have some different face and case colors - though those presented in the pictures ref'd and given in this thread are perfectly typical examples. Telefunken, Torn, West and AEG all used somewhat different finishes. In addition to these standardized radio-sets, there were servo-motors, power-supplies, junction boxes, and loud-speakers - all of which could be these same colors or other OEM finishes - among them dark green, satin black, and "field gray".
The frame-racks typically seen in vehicles were also mostly standard OEM stuff supplied by different companies (of course! ). These were generally supplied to vehicle-assembly plants by the OEM wearing the prevailing base-coat color of the era - i.e., earlier war and pre-war they were a dunkelgrau-type color (in a satin or apparently even semi-glossy enamel finish, as seen in some interior photos), and in later years, the dunkelgelb-type color. So, there was usually a color-distinction between frame members and contained radios.
Best of my knowledge, these frames / racks were installed into already-finished AFV, and were not repainted to be the prevailing interior elfinbein (in closed hulls) (the same racks were used in open-top vehicles, where they would already match the exterior base-coat, which was also the open, visible interior base-coat).
So... A guy building a 222 or 223 "closed" car would comfortably use the same rack color and radio color(s) as one building a Marder or a 251.
Hope this helps!
Bob
Posted: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 - 02:56 AM UTC
Thanks, all!
Please keep sharing info. Great stuff! I'm learning a ton... Which is good since I have three more radio vehicles to build next!!
I love the idea of painting each component a bit different color. A collection of grey, tan, green radios seems like a better visual than all gray!
Please keep sharing info. Great stuff! I'm learning a ton... Which is good since I have three more radio vehicles to build next!!
I love the idea of painting each component a bit different color. A collection of grey, tan, green radios seems like a better visual than all gray!