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BMR 1 Photos / info please
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Posted: Saturday, December 21, 2013 - 03:56 PM UTC
Hi Guys,

I am wondering if anyone can please help with photos of the BMR1, mine clearing vehicle it was based on the SU 122 /54 Chassis.

Cheers Mike
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Posted: Sunday, December 22, 2013 - 07:39 AM UTC
This one Mike ?



Looks like it was used in Afghanistan :












and in Lebanon by the UNIFIL (Ukrainian contigent) :





Here's a 1/35th scale model :

http://www.dishmodels.ru/gshow.htm?p=9152

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Posted: Sunday, December 22, 2013 - 08:23 AM UTC
Hi Frenchy,

Once again sir you are just like flash gordon....the saviour of the universe!!

Thank you very much Henri & a very merry christmas & a happy new yesr for you.

Cheers Mike
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Posted: Sunday, December 22, 2013 - 08:28 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Thank you very much Henri & a very merry christmas & a happy new yesr for you.



The same to you Mike ! You're welcome

Three more Afghanistan pics :







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Posted: Sunday, December 22, 2013 - 09:07 AM UTC
If only Tamyia did one of these... or Meng's..
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Posted: Sunday, December 22, 2013 - 09:53 AM UTC
I completely agree John!!
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Posted: Sunday, December 22, 2013 - 09:56 AM UTC
Hi Guys;

Fantastic Post and Pictures, what a great build.
This is the kind of stuff that I really like, Off the Wall and Different. This vehicle and the one that's based on the T-72 would be Wonderful in a kit.

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE; MIKE.
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Posted: Sunday, December 22, 2013 - 10:33 AM UTC
Hi Mike,

Thanks very glad you like the post & yes as you have stated great great pictures supplied by Frenchy!!

I also think it is a very off the wall subject & something I would like to make in the future.

Merry Chritsmas to all

Cheers Mike
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Posted: Sunday, December 22, 2013 - 10:35 AM UTC
Two more Ukrainian ones :





and two more in Afghanistan :




I guess you can still find some there



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Posted: Sunday, December 22, 2013 - 11:10 AM UTC
Merci pour les photos Henri-Pierre !
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Posted: Sunday, December 22, 2013 - 11:55 AM UTC
Speechless Speecless Speechless!!!

Fenchy I do believe you are the Houdni of finding photos, your talent is astounding!!!
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Posted: Sunday, December 22, 2013 - 07:41 PM UTC
My pleasure guys

Here's a rear view :



You can check out this thread as well :

http://panzer35.ru/forum/22-1558-1

Joyeux Noël

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Posted: Sunday, December 22, 2013 - 09:13 PM UTC
Frenchy what a great link!!

Thanks very much!!
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Posted: Monday, December 23, 2013 - 04:24 AM UTC
Just stumbled across another Afghanistan color shot :



Full size

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Posted: Monday, December 23, 2013 - 05:50 AM UTC
It's threads like these that make me love Armorama. Before I read this thread I had only heard the name BMR-1 in passing and now I have a whole folder of pictures of it. Thanks.




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Posted: Monday, December 23, 2013 - 06:53 AM UTC
There are a few more pics of the 1/35th scale build I've already mentioned here :

http://www.tigerscorner.ru/index.php?topic=55.0

Another Ukrainian BMR-1 on a MAZ tank transporter in Lebanon :



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Posted: Monday, December 23, 2013 - 08:45 AM UTC
Hi Everybody;

Its A Good thing that they Don't make it in 1/35 scale. --- Then Id have too Buy two or three.
Items that I have picked out, are the use of the T-72s RMSH, with its Drive Sprocket. The BRDM-2s turret with the 14.5mm Gun, and in the photos there are some that have a Tire or Road Wheels on top of the turret. Interesting !
Its kind of a Surprise, that its not still in production.
I would really like too see the T-72s vehicle made like this. OH TRUMPETER !!

HAPPY HOLIDAYS; MIKE.
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Posted: Thursday, January 02, 2014 - 07:24 AM UTC
Here's some more , a few of which Frenchy posted already
http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/siba219/album/113943/?

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Posted: Thursday, January 02, 2014 - 08:46 AM UTC
Hi Sean,

Thanks very much for the extra info!! I can now start to plan a future build!!

Cheers Mike
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Posted: Thursday, January 02, 2014 - 02:39 PM UTC
Hi;

Man is this Great Stuff or what, the pictures from 35ru are really nice. And gives us Info, on the Soviet/Afgan conflict. When looking at the pictures I can Ident at least four different vehicles that have the Mine Rollers attached, The first appears too be based on a T-54/55, as it has the Ventilation Dome on the back of the rear superstructure. Another feature is the picture taken from the front and shows a Drivers Position lower than the Commanders that's on his right. The other two vehicles are the Engineering Vehicle with the mine rollers and the T-62 based vehicle sporting a Parade Scheme !
Its Interesting in a couple of the pictures that the vehicle has Damage from a Mine Blast itself.
IMHO I think that this type of vehicle would be really nice in kit form or even done by one of the AM Boys, lets say SP Design !!---EH JD.
CHEERS; MIKE.
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Posted: Thursday, January 02, 2014 - 02:59 PM UTC
Hi Mike,

The original vehicles were built on the chassis of the redundant SU122/54 tank destroyer as far as I am aware.....,still learning about it myself!!:)

I also thought it was interesting about the damaged vechicle, I was thinking more alone the lines of an I.E.D tho as I know the CIA trained the Afagan rebels to make them??

I am already costing out the sub kits required to make it lol, Tamiya T55, fruil T72 tracks, Brdm2 for the turret, trumpy or Mig mine roller etc etc etc lol

Cheers Mike
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Posted: Friday, January 03, 2014 - 01:50 AM UTC
Hello Mike,
very glad to help, this is a long term project of mine as well and I've got as far as altering the wheel spacing and mocking up the superstructure in index card to check for fit and overall look as well as serve as patterns for cutting the actual panels as all the drawings I've been able to find have been pretty suspect.
You're right about it being based on redundant tank destroyers which were subsequently used as towing vehicles during the large soviet era parades and then found their way to Afghanistan fitted with turrets and rollers for mine clearing duty.
To Mike G., I believe the vehicle you mention with the drivers position lower than the commanders' is the BMR-2. It has racks behind the superstructure for a spare set of roller assemblies and a small crane for unloading them. Now THAT'S something I'd love to see in kit form! You'll find some pictures of this version in various damaged states somewhere in the link I posted above.
Finally , we have the BMR-3 which I believe is based on the T-72 and/or T-90. I may have some links saved regarding this that I'll see if I can find.
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Posted: Friday, January 03, 2014 - 08:33 AM UTC
Hi Guys;

There are plenty of Pictures of the BMRs on the e-net, and the BMR-3 is based on the T-72. Now if we could get Trumpeter too make one of the BMRs that would really be Fantastic ! The B/W photo of the Parade vehicle is the T-62 that was built too be the Anti-Tank version, and was too be fitted with the 130mm gun. In the pic, you can see the Armored Plate that was welded in place. This Version of the Self Propelled Anti-Tank Gun version was Droped because of the So Called Kruchev,s luv of everything that was Missile Driven. Now even tho Kruchev was no longer in power, there were still enough of people still in High Places who still shared this belief. Just a lil-bit of info.
Sean; We would really like too see a couple of shots of your work.
Frenchy; Thanks Man, for the Great Pictures.

I have really enjoyed this Topic, this is Great Stuff !!
CHEERS EVERYBODY; MIKE.
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Posted: Friday, January 03, 2014 - 10:30 AM UTC
Hi Mike,
do you mean the IT-130? I think the general consensus is that this was a mis-identification of the SU-122-54 from the early days based on the road wheel spacing having been altered. I'm still trying to get the hang of posting photos but I'll see what I can do.

Sean
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Posted: Friday, January 03, 2014 - 10:52 AM UTC
Hi Sean,

I too would love to see some picture of you WIP & "borrow" any all & all hints about building her.....

Mike I agree the 35ru site is great,personally I am getting really drawn to the soviet invasion of Astan.

Cheers Mike
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