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My model color paint seems too thin
hockeybrianboy
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Posted: Saturday, January 25, 2014 - 05:16 PM UTC
Don't think I've seen anyone else have this problem. But the model color white paint I bought from Vallejo seems too thin right out of the bottle. Not only does it appear much thinner than the black coming out of the bottle, but when I paint any largish areas with it, there's lots of spots where the paint is really thin; even when painting over it multiple times. Any ideas?
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Posted: Saturday, January 25, 2014 - 05:33 PM UTC
Model Color requires an extensive shake to mix the liquid with
the pigment.
If that does not help, the pigments may have clumped at the
bottom of the bottle(older stock).
Remove the drop dispenser, go in with a toothpick or similar
object and dislodge the pigment.
Re install the dispenser and cap and proceed to shake extensively.
This should help.

Of note, white and yellow paint usually requires 2-3 coats
to cover properly.

Cheers,
Joe
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Posted: Saturday, January 25, 2014 - 05:53 PM UTC
Thanks Joe.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 - 04:09 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Model Color requires an extensive shake to mix the liquid with
the pigment.
If that does not help, the pigments may have clumped at the
bottom of the bottle(older stock).
Remove the drop dispenser, go in with a toothpick or similar
object and dislodge the pigment.
Re install the dispenser and cap and proceed to shake extensively.
This should help.

Of note, white and yellow paint usually requires 2-3 coats
to cover properly.

Cheers,
Joe



Mr Model Color seems to come in extremes just go to the display rack and you will find some won't shake and some feel so watery . I've been told that is because of the pigments , some are just thicker than others and the lighter shades are thinner as you stated . It is because of this I've sworn off even trying to airbrush this Vallejo line I been too frustrated trying to . And so have a lot of friend that have tried to also .
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Posted: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 - 05:06 AM UTC

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Model Color requires an extensive shake to mix the liquid with
the pigment.
If that does not help, the pigments may have clumped at the
bottom of the bottle(older stock).
Remove the drop dispenser, go in with a toothpick or similar
object and dislodge the pigment.
Re install the dispenser and cap and proceed to shake extensively.
This should help.

Of note, white and yellow paint usually requires 2-3 coats
to cover properly.

Cheers,
Joe



Mr Model Color seems to come in extremes just go to the display rack and you will find some won't shake and some feel so watery . I've been told that is because of the pigments , some are just thicker than others and the lighter shades are thinner as you stated . It is because of this I've sworn off even trying to airbrush this Vallejo line I been too frustrated trying to . And so have a lot of friend that have tried to also .



Mr Model Color and Vallejo Model Color, 2 different things.

Good practice to get into with the Vallejo Model Color paints, go to a hardware store and buy some small hex nuts, take off the dropper top and put a nut in each bottle, this will help agitate the paint and get it mixed up better for you.

Avoid using something like a BB as it can sink down into the dropper top when your are pouring out the paint and block the dropper hole.

As far as thinning Model Color paint, couldn't be easier. Using their own AB thinner, mix 3 parts thinner to 1 part paint and Bob's your uncle....couldn't be easier. If you have a color that is thicker than others, add a bit more thinner, thinner than others, a bit less thinner, but most of the colors run about the same viscosity when they are properly mixed up.

If nothing else, if it isn't shaking together well enough for you, you can always take the dropper top out and stir it up.
chumpo
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Posted: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 - 06:45 AM UTC

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Model Color requires an extensive shake to mix the liquid with
the pigment.
If that does not help, the pigments may have clumped at the
bottom of the bottle(older stock).
Remove the drop dispenser, go in with a toothpick or similar
object and dislodge the pigment.
Re install the dispenser and cap and proceed to shake extensively.
This should help.

Of note, white and yellow paint usually requires 2-3 coats
to cover properly.

Cheers,
Joe



Mr Model Color seems to come in extremes just go to the display rack and you will find some won't shake and some feel so watery . I've been told that is because of the pigments , some are just thicker than others and the lighter shades are thinner as you stated . It is because of this I've sworn off even trying to airbrush this Vallejo line I been too frustrated trying to . And so have a lot of friend that have tried to also .



Mr Model Color and Vallejo Model Color, 2 different things.

Good practice to get into with the Vallejo Model Color paints, go to a hardware store and buy some small hex nuts, take off the dropper top and put a nut in each bottle, this will help agitate the paint and get it mixed up better for you.

Avoid using something like a BB as it can sink down into the dropper top when your are pouring out the paint and block the dropper hole.

As far as thinning Model Color paint, couldn't be easier. Using their own AB thinner, mix 3 parts thinner to 1 part paint and Bob's your uncle....couldn't be easier. If you have a color that is thicker than others, add a bit more thinner, thinner than others, a bit less thinner, but most of the colors run about the same viscosity when they are properly mixed up.

If nothing else, if it isn't shaking together well enough for you, you can always take the dropper top out and stir it up.


Sorry , my fault I had meant to say Vallejo model color , Mr. color is a synthetic lacquer and not an acrylic .
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Posted: Saturday, February 01, 2014 - 10:06 AM UTC
Brian,
Another easy trick that I have used is to take the bottle (with cap still on) turn it upside down for 5 minutes or so before you need it. Obviously, this allows the pigment to settle into the dropper area. Open the cap and put a few of the now thick with pigment drops on the palette, thin appropriately and you are good to go.

Cheers,
Rick
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Posted: Monday, February 03, 2014 - 01:00 PM UTC
Go to WalMart to the fishing dept and buy a couple bags of lead free fishing weights size #4-#7. Drop a couple weights into the bottle plus a drop or two of Vallejo thinner and or distilled water. Then shake.
MadModeler
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Posted: Friday, February 07, 2014 - 09:04 AM UTC
Did you by any chance buy Vallejo Air Model paint? That will be a bit thinner than normal paint. It is design for air brushing mostly.

Cheers,
Tom
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