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russamotto
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Posted: Saturday, April 26, 2014 - 03:19 AM UTC
I need a paint booth setup for my airbrush. Saw this online:

http://www.tcpglobal.com/AirbrushDepot/ItemDetail.aspx?ItemNo=MAS+B420DCK&gclid=CIP8tPi4_r0CFQ5gMgodXDgAPQ

Amazon has it with free shipping. Is it a good product or should I look for something else? I only use acrylics and Tamiya paints, with water, windex and simple green as cleaners.
didgeboy
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Posted: Saturday, April 26, 2014 - 03:25 AM UTC
I think most people would say yes and I believe you can find it on AMAZON and if you have Prime, free two day shipping .

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Paint+spray+booth
milvehfan
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Posted: Saturday, April 26, 2014 - 08:41 AM UTC
Hi,
I also have been looking at these booths. Glad to see it posted. Advice and Comments on them are welcome.

mil
corsair924
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Posted: Saturday, April 26, 2014 - 09:06 AM UTC
Might want to find out what size the filter is (including thickness)and what type of filter. Can those be bought at Home Depot (example) cheaply or do you need to go back and pay through the nose for a specific size.
Otherwise it looks great, cost me about as much to build my own out of a clear storage container and a duct fan.
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Posted: Saturday, April 26, 2014 - 09:30 AM UTC
I have one. For the price, it is very good. The exhaust hose can be a bit short but it really removes the paint spray well and collapses and goes back together easily. It's a good buy.
Okpik031
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Posted: Saturday, April 26, 2014 - 09:30 AM UTC
I have been looking at these also but my concern is the fan is not strong enough to really achieve any worthwhile movement of air and fumes from the area. I live in the very far north now and will have to airbrush in the house because I do not have a basement or warm garage to use. I know if I had a hardware store available to me I would purchase a lower end stove hood and make a box for it to sit on. After that it takes a little knowledge to wire a plug into it and attach a boot and then some dryer hose to a window and ventilate it out side. The advantage of this is you get work lights if you buy the right kind and a charcoal filter with a strong fan to get rid of fumes. The disadvantage is that you will have to build it more as a permanent set up which may be an issue if you have a small area.

Buying a setup you have to remember you pay for what you get and cheaper is not always the way to go especially if you are concerned with fumes. If you can't build one then I think looking at the more expensive ones would be the right thing to do because you need a very high CFM. My uncle had an autobody shop and his fan was built into a corrugated steel drain pipe and I can tell you one thing that thing was strong and could change the pressure in the garage. now he worked with automotive paints and wore a respirator even then before all the fancy equipment they use today. The point is you have to be able to move the air through your filters and outside so you need a very strong fan to do that. For me I want to build one because I will end up spending the costs of a smaller high end one probably still with low CFM without importing it and getting a larger painting area in the end until then I guess I have to stay with a brush and do it the old way. Whatever you do in buying one please do not put your health at risk to save a couple of bucks. Lungs are hard to replace and we do have to think about the others in the house also right!
ninjrk
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Posted: Saturday, April 26, 2014 - 10:22 AM UTC
I will say I bought mine to use during the winter here in the NE and it works quite well. I tested mine with the same set-up we use at the lab for biosafety cabinets and it passed those as well.
russamotto
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Posted: Saturday, April 26, 2014 - 11:04 AM UTC
Amazon has sold three since I posted this question. Matt, based on what you are saying it sounds like it should work for what I need. I was going to build my own but pricing what I needed it was about the same and this one. I may also have to put it away from time to time. I can get replacement filter material at Home Depot or Lowes.
milvehfan
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Posted: Saturday, April 26, 2014 - 11:17 AM UTC
Hi Russ,
Ditto !!!!!

Thanks to all who posted.
mil
justsendit
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Posted: Saturday, April 26, 2014 - 12:00 PM UTC
I've been using mine since late November, 2013 and it seems to work fine, especially for the price.

I have one issue: The replacement filters are approximately $9.00 US plus a pop plus shipping. It is a two filter system sandwiched together; a white one and a blue one and I've yet to find a cheap alternative. Hardware stores around where I live are pretty lame so I kind of gave up on finding a generic version.

However, when I first got back into sprayin' and prayin,' I clogged the filters up pretty quickly. Since then, my technique has improved. In addition, I use an Iwata Cleaning Station for cleaning my airbrush (highly recommended) instead of spraying at the booth all of the time. This has made a huge differnce in filter longevity.

Find Iwata Cleaning Pot, Clean Paint Jar and Air Brush Holder at Amazon.

Nine bucks isn't every now and then isn't too much when you consider your health. I say get one and you'll be happy you did.
Okpik031
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Posted: Saturday, April 26, 2014 - 12:08 PM UTC
So am I to understand that it is the TCP Global that is getting the thumbs up from you guys? At that price even with the shipping to Canada it may be worthwhile if it is working well and I will have to consider it as a serious contender in that case.
russamotto
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Posted: Saturday, April 26, 2014 - 01:17 PM UTC
I got mine from Amazon with the free shipping through prime. It was a much better deal than TCP.
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Posted: Saturday, April 26, 2014 - 01:24 PM UTC
I meant to mention: The Iwata-Medea Cleaning Station is approximately $18 - $20 US on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Iwata-Medea-NAC-201-Cleaning-Station/dp/B000VADIVC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398561338&sr=8-1&keywords=iwata+cleaning

I also wear a respirator whenever I spray. It's just an old habit but a good one. Once you start wearing one, it becomes automatic:

3M 07193 Paint Spray Resp. Also on Amazon for approximately $17 - $24 US:

http://www.amazon.com/3M-07193-Paint-Spray-Resp/dp/B00079FOK0/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1398561516&sr=8-6&keywords=3m+respirator

Happy spraying!
--mike
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Posted: Saturday, April 26, 2014 - 08:00 PM UTC
Russ, I have had mine for over a year and a half and it is still working perfectly. It moves a lot of air. I have it set up on a stand in the basement vented to the outside. Standing in front of it when turned on you can feel the air being pulled out. I am still using the same filters that came with the unit. When dirty, I have had good luck cleaning them by washing them out under running water and letting them dry. Plus it's 10 dollars cheaper than what I got it for when I bought it.
SSGToms
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Posted: Monday, April 28, 2014 - 10:56 AM UTC
Buy it from Amazon with free shipping, but buy it! I reviewed it here:[url] https://armorama.kitmaker.net/review/4680[url/]
And I've been using mine for 5 years now and it's still sturdy and in perfect condition. It draws enough air that nobody can smell me airbrushing in the house from 10 feet away (I use acrylics). I buy furnace filters at Home Depot for replacement filters and cut them - costs pennies. Buy this paintbooth! You will be impressed and happy you did! 5 stars, no kidding.
Robbd01
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Posted: Monday, April 28, 2014 - 11:11 AM UTC
Picked one up on ebay just about a year ago for about $75 including shipping. I got the one that has a straight power plug. Not a brick powerpack shown in your pic. Not sure which is better/worse. I prefer power plug. Fits the ole power strip better.

Here is a pic of the ole workroom on the bench. I don't have the hose going out the window in back at the time I popped the pic

http://www.scalemates.com/profiles/mate.php?id=10508&p=albums&album=10128

Cheers



pseudorealityx
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Posted: Monday, April 28, 2014 - 02:49 PM UTC

Quoted Text

I have been looking at these also but my concern is the fan is not strong enough to really achieve any worthwhile movement of air and fumes from the area. I live in the very far north now and will have to airbrush in the house because I do not have a basement or warm garage to use. I know if I had a hardware store available to me I would purchase a lower end stove hood and make a box for it to sit on. After that it takes a little knowledge to wire a plug into it and attach a boot and then some dryer hose to a window and ventilate it out side. The advantage of this is you get work lights if you buy the right kind and a charcoal filter with a strong fan to get rid of fumes. The disadvantage is that you will have to build it more as a permanent set up which may be an issue if you have a small area.

Buying a setup you have to remember you pay for what you get and cheaper is not always the way to go especially if you are concerned with fumes. If you can't build one then I think looking at the more expensive ones would be the right thing to do because you need a very high CFM. My uncle had an autobody shop and his fan was built into a corrugated steel drain pipe and I can tell you one thing that thing was strong and could change the pressure in the garage. now he worked with automotive paints and wore a respirator even then before all the fancy equipment they use today. The point is you have to be able to move the air through your filters and outside so you need a very strong fan to do that. For me I want to build one because I will end up spending the costs of a smaller high end one probably still with low CFM without importing it and getting a larger painting area in the end until then I guess I have to stay with a brush and do it the old way. Whatever you do in buying one please do not put your health at risk to save a couple of bucks. Lungs are hard to replace and we do have to think about the others in the house also right!



I ran the calculations on a thread over on missing lynx, and this one actually does have about the right air velocity for a fume hood.

I have the hood without the extension hose, so it catches the particulate, but the fumes from lacquer aren't really caught. I spray in my garage, which is both relatively large, and by no means air tight, so I don't have much problem with fumes. I do have a respirator if I'm doing a lot of spraying.
justsendit
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Posted: Monday, April 28, 2014 - 02:56 PM UTC
Hey Matthew,
Which furnace filters do you buy from Home Depot?

--mike
pseudorealityx
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Posted: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 - 02:30 AM UTC
Oh...

Also, I've found you can vacuum the filters, and will pull out a LOT of dried particulate from the filters. Should extend the life pretty well.
justsendit
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Posted: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 - 05:15 AM UTC
I think a 'Workshop Campaign' is in order!
Here is das 'Luftbürste' und 'Panzerwerks' panzerama -- what I use to build and airbrush!

https://gallery.kitmaker.net/showgallery.php?cat=29138

--mike
SSGToms
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Posted: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 - 09:56 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Hey Matthew,
Which furnace filters do you buy from Home Depot?

--mike

The cheapest ones made of blue polyfiber.
plasticman
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Posted: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 - 03:32 PM UTC
I have this paint booth, works great. A little noisy but who cares. Dont waste your money buying pre made fit filters, you can go to Home Depot and buy a roll of filter material and cut it to size.
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