What colours were the early panzer crew's shirts and ties?

In the early part of the war I beleive they wore mid-grey shirts and black ties, later on I think that these were worn if they were already issued. Most of the 'photos I've seen with the camouflage smock show an open-neck shirt of various colours.

hi it was a light grey very c;ose to seal grey with black ties but civilian shirts were worn as well , there is a well know photo of a german tanker with cheque shirt and coloured tie , same with pullovers both were worn , cheers ian

If you are talking about the Heer units they were originally mouse grey or dark grey with black ties. Private purchase white shirts were worn for walking out. but by 1941 Panzer crewmen were wearing black shirts with their uniforms. A dark grey pullover shirt with two patch pockets was introduced in 1943 and shortly after a feldgrau shirt of the same cut replaced the dark grey one.

The Waffen-SS started with the SS brown shirt with a black tie. but eventually followed the Heer's lead, with black, white, grey and feldgrau being seen as the war progressed.

PH

My reference varies just a bit.
Early Wehrmacht Heer panzer crews wore a pocketless dark grey knitted shirt, issued up until June 1943, REPLACED in the same month & year with a dark grey knitted shirt with left & right chest pockets.

Early Waffen SS panzer crews wore standard pattern brown pocketless shirts which were issued until Aug.1943, REPLACED with the dark grey shirt with left & right chest pockets. similar to the Heeres

The black tie was OBLIGATORY when wakling out in both branches. When on the front lines I have seen photo's of early panzer crews with & without the tie.

- ralph