Hello,
Spent a lot of time researching colours and finally decided to go with AK interactive. Then... I found out about the whole breaking up issue and also found that Mig has his own "ammo" line.
My question is, I'm about to spend money on the early and late German paint sets with plenty of pre made washes and pigments. What is better to go with?
Is Migs ammo line in German tank colours more accurate than AKs or are the same?
Thanks
Callum
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AK interactive and Mig paint set
Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 07:58 AM UTC
hardhead572000
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Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 08:16 AM UTC
Both are good products,you cannot fail with either. But, my edge goes to Mig. He is an artist on the cutting edge of techniques and is a very creative model builder. Many products in the Mig line are "created" by him through ideas.
Why not use both? Regardless all will turn out well with both.
Why not use both? Regardless all will turn out well with both.
Unreality
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Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 09:19 AM UTC
As far as I know, the paints are the same, just under a different label.
Belt_Fed
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Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 09:49 AM UTC
I love the colors for the AK late war set, but found their performance to be rather poor (for me). You may love them, though. Everyone's tastes and setups are different. I use them as color references for mixing my own paints from Tamiya acrylics.
Blackstoat
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Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 10:07 AM UTC
Yeah it's Tamiya all the way for me, I know the shades are a little limited but I find they are on the whole more versatile for things like hairspray techniques etc.
I even mix my own filters and washes using Humbrol enamels and thinner. Perhaps I'm tight, but I seem to be able to mix gallons of washes/filters in the exact shades I'm after for a few pence.
I even mix my own filters and washes using Humbrol enamels and thinner. Perhaps I'm tight, but I seem to be able to mix gallons of washes/filters in the exact shades I'm after for a few pence.
Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 11:56 AM UTC
Thanks for the replies, and funny you mention tamiya - was researching German camouflage for hours on end previously in order to determine shades for tamiya. After dedicating a few days... I just gave up and thought AKs product would do.
Comparing both the Mig and AK early war set the colours seem to appear the same as Jonathan mentioned. It would not surprise me as Mig created both. Any Idea on the spraying differences - more airbrush friendly in other words?
Cheers
Comparing both the Mig and AK early war set the colours seem to appear the same as Jonathan mentioned. It would not surprise me as Mig created both. Any Idea on the spraying differences - more airbrush friendly in other words?
Cheers
alewar
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Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 01:10 PM UTC
As far I know, the AK paint and other stuff, are managed from the old partner of MIG.
Also in some forums, I dont recall if in Miguel's page, he post a letter where he explain the piece apart of the joint venture.
Talking about the colors, I try OD shades, and some of the individuals ones for the modulation series.
I apply the directly from the container and found that are a bit thinned to my taste, but maybe its my pressure and dilution combination or just not been set yet with the new stuff.
About the colors
I'm a bit confused as the "late" war colors its supposed to be more "dark" than the previous ones.
But all the sets show them more "scale" effect. Like the "reseda green", a color that I not ear nothing before. Yes this color match or so, the RLM chart, i.e. exist as color, but this and the DunkelGelb also are more "clear" or moving to "buff" than the dark or more "green" shade that some charts show.
So I really don't now if they are specifically reserched or its just another marketing move, creating more stuff for the "elusives" WWII colors
What you think?
Regards from the south.
Also in some forums, I dont recall if in Miguel's page, he post a letter where he explain the piece apart of the joint venture.
Talking about the colors, I try OD shades, and some of the individuals ones for the modulation series.
I apply the directly from the container and found that are a bit thinned to my taste, but maybe its my pressure and dilution combination or just not been set yet with the new stuff.
About the colors
I'm a bit confused as the "late" war colors its supposed to be more "dark" than the previous ones.
But all the sets show them more "scale" effect. Like the "reseda green", a color that I not ear nothing before. Yes this color match or so, the RLM chart, i.e. exist as color, but this and the DunkelGelb also are more "clear" or moving to "buff" than the dark or more "green" shade that some charts show.
So I really don't now if they are specifically reserched or its just another marketing move, creating more stuff for the "elusives" WWII colors
What you think?
Regards from the south.
Unreality
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Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 03:15 PM UTC
I've had good luck spraying the AK/MIG acrylics. They are about as thin as Vallejo Air, but they airbrush better IMO. I have the late war set, the rust set, and a few individual bottles from the new MIG line. However, I haven't tried freehand camo patterns, so I can't comment on how tightly you can spray them.
Jedge3
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Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 05:25 PM UTC
I have tried both AK and some of new Ammo products but not many. I tend to stick with Vallejo but I have found all three to be easy to use.
Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 06:30 PM UTC
Ok, well I have decided to go with Mig's color sets as when I write the colors down from AK and Mig side by side you can see which one makes more sense when linked to the research I've done.
Migs early war set seems more appealing due to the presence of schokobraun. Although if you were to buy both sets... it would be no different in total colours. Both AK and Mig have the same total colours if you were to buy both their early and late sets, only difference is they're arranged differently (maybe for copyright reasons? I wouldn't know).
The only thing to me that's different in total as far as comparing the paint chips on the packets is Dunkelgelb aus '44 DG III. On Migs set it appears more white where as AK has more tan tinge - could just be me getting all OCD.
I'm just happy to settle with a set rule as doing all this research on colors and trying to perfect the right tones gets in the way of having fun. Hence why I've decided to go with the sets and their weathering products.
In saying all of this, would we all agree on Migs set being a good decision?
Thanks again
Migs early war set seems more appealing due to the presence of schokobraun. Although if you were to buy both sets... it would be no different in total colours. Both AK and Mig have the same total colours if you were to buy both their early and late sets, only difference is they're arranged differently (maybe for copyright reasons? I wouldn't know).
The only thing to me that's different in total as far as comparing the paint chips on the packets is Dunkelgelb aus '44 DG III. On Migs set it appears more white where as AK has more tan tinge - could just be me getting all OCD.
I'm just happy to settle with a set rule as doing all this research on colors and trying to perfect the right tones gets in the way of having fun. Hence why I've decided to go with the sets and their weathering products.
In saying all of this, would we all agree on Migs set being a good decision?
Thanks again