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M1A1/A2 120 mm ammo containers?
HermannB
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Posted: Saturday, June 28, 2014 - 04:06 AM UTC
Hi Gang,
while searching for pics of Combined Resolve II exercise in Germny, I subled across some pics of ammo containers for the 120 mm main gun ammo. Does anyone know what`s the designation of the container is and whos manufacturing these? A google search proofed nothing so far.
TIA
H.-H.
seanmcandrews
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Posted: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 - 02:18 AM UTC
Hello H.H.,
is this the type shown in the photos ? http://store.colemans.com/cart/images/2039.gif
I have an example here at home and just pulled it out, no manuf. ID that I can see. No problem getting you dimensions if needed.

Sean
HermannB
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Posted: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 - 02:31 PM UTC
Hi Sean,
yes, these are what I look for. Thansk for taking measurements.
H.-H.
Frenchy
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Posted: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 - 09:11 PM UTC
Hi Hans-Hermann

I know it's probably too late now but this container is called PA116 (several manufacturers found...) :

http://proceedings.ndia.org/5550/tues_and_wed_briefings/altamura.pdf

Looks like there's a new improved model called PA171...

H.P.
seanmcandrews
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Posted: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 - 03:07 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Hi Sean,
yes, these are what I look for. Thansk for taking measurements.
H.-H.



PM me your e-mail address and I'll send a sketch. Also found a bit more information from TM 9-1300-251-20&P , the container is simply identified as "metal container for cartridge, 120mm.

Sean
Frenchy
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Posted: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 - 03:23 AM UTC
PA116 basic specs (as sold by Conco Inc.):

http://www.concocontainers.com/products_squarebell.htm

The PA116 is for the M829 APFSDS-T (Armor Piercing, Fin Stabilized, Discarding Sabot - Tracer) and M830 HEAT-MP-T (High Explosive Anti-Tank-Multi Purpose - Tracer) cartridges

The PA119 is for the M865 TPCSDS-T (Target Practice, Cone Stabilized, Discarding Sabot - Tracer) and M831 TP-T (Target Practice - Tracer) cartridges

H.P.
HermannB
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Posted: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 - 04:01 AM UTC
Hi there,
I found the same stuff as Frenchy, thanks anyway. Sometimes I can still use my own brain. ;-))
I googled for Conco but came to a VERY different company.
There are rumors for a crew for Meng Bradley, maybe we will see an Abrams crew someday, too.
Thanks to both of you.
H.-H.
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