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Armor/AFV: IDF [Israeli Defense Forces]
Armor and AFVs of the IDF army from 1947-today.
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thoughts about Scratchbuilding and also AMX13
ekaufman
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Haifa, Israel
Joined: June 17, 2002
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Posted: Monday, December 29, 2003 - 06:03 AM UTC
Hi!
I have the old Heller AMX13/75 (thanks JW!) and I know it's not the best kit around-but it's the only game in town.
So, what needs/can/should be fixed and detailed to make it reasonably acceptable as a 67' IDF vehicle.
Another thing, people always say "soft on details" or "can use adding details". now what would be those details?
I sometimes find myself looking a kit (not the tamiya T-55) and looking for details to add,but don't see much unless it's really big and missing. on the other hand I read articles that say "1,xxx,xxx parts were added to the commander copula alone" SO WHY CANT I FIND ALL THOSE DETAILS TO ADD?.
do the majority of kits I buy are so good,don't think so.
will only modelers with acute AMS find those details?

Thanks for you answers
Eran
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Colorado, United States
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Posted: Monday, December 29, 2003 - 06:07 AM UTC



lol,lol.......thx for the chuckle Eran. :-)
ptruhe
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Texas, United States
Joined: March 05, 2003
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Posted: Monday, December 29, 2003 - 06:43 AM UTC
Eran,

I've got the same kit. All the intake screens are fairly ugly and I had started drilling out each hole but stopped after snapping a couple of fine drill bits which in the end probably saved me from total insanity. There is a homemade PE set made by a guy in Spain but he only takes cash. I can scan the instruction sheet if you would like. It's got hull and turret details.

As far as the AMS is concerned, I think the AMX is a decent kit, even though the hull construction is a pain, and my biggest complaint is the hollow periscopes but that's my personal b*tch. As far as I know the ifrance site is the best bet for pics but it's not IDF.

I got the Chaffee turret conversion from JW so I've sunk enough extra into this kit. I'm not replacing the kit tracks. Looks like I have to make the tracks muddy.

I've got AMS but my wallet keeps it in check and mainly serves as a good excuse for not finishing a kit.

Paul
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Massachusetts, United States
Joined: May 05, 2002
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Posted: Monday, December 29, 2003 - 07:28 AM UTC
Eran,
I dropped a figure into the commander's hatch with a 1967 style uniform and was happy with the results. As mentioned, the mulitpart hull can be a pain. The only other real complaint I had was that the tracks were really soft vinyl and tended to fold over a bit on the drive wheel. I also covered the mantlet tarp with tissue and white glue. It's a rare enough kit and tank that relatively few experts are going to get their shorts in a knot about it not being spot on.

I bought a second to add the turret to a Sherman to make an Egyptian M4 as captured by the Israelis. Cheaper than the Verlinden conversion and I got a bunch of spare detail parts.
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