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bankmannl
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Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 - 05:18 AM UTC

Hi guys,

Does anyone has TB 43-0166
Color, Marking, and Camouflage Pattern Painting of Improved Hawk Guided Missile System Ground Support Equipment (Improved Hawk Air Defense Guided Missile System)(August 1977)

I would like to have drawings of the PAR-radar and launcher to paint my Revell Hawk missile.

TIA !!



grunt136mike
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Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 - 07:26 AM UTC
Hi;

The Standard NATO three color sceme would apply too all the Ground Support equipment, and Both Radar sets.

CHEERS; MIKE.
DerGeist
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Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 - 11:07 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Hi;

The Standard NATO three color sceme would apply too all the Ground Support equipment, and Both Radar sets.

CHEERS; MIKE.



NATO scheme didn't exist in 1977, which is the time frame he's looking for.
AFVFan
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Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 - 11:50 AM UTC
If you Google "Hawk missile image" you can find a few pictures in camo. It seems the majority were painted solid colors, though.
Tankrider
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Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 - 12:01 PM UTC
I was going to say that I had only seen the missiles in Dark Green with the launchers & GSE in OD/MRDEC/Nato-flague
grunt136mike
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Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 - 12:31 PM UTC
Hi;

NATO three color scemes were common in the other members of NATO, the USA normal sceme during that time period was the MERDC sceme. And camo's were not common on SA units, esp; on the Missiles themselves ! And remember we were not the only Country that used HAWK Missile Batteries.
As far as the Missile is concerned they were all one color, the most common were all Green with A Black Nose Cone. And they could also bee seen in all White which was rare. While Stationed in Taiwan, the HAWK Batteries were always Hid under Camo, and even the Missile were camo, Painted.

CHEERS; MIKE.
Kenaicop
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Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 - 04:16 PM UTC
I was in 3/1 ADA at Ft. Hood for a short time in the late 80's. Our hawk stuff was a real eclectic mix of desert MERDC, NATO 3-tone, solid green and solid sand. We moved as a unit from Ft. Bliss and were in a constant state of upgrade. So I guess you can use any scheme and be correct
bankmannl
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Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 - 06:37 PM UTC
Hi guys,

Thanks for all the input !!
I guess it will be the old saying: Use your imagination !!.



bankmannl
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Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 - 11:42 PM UTC
Guys,

One final question:

What tire size have the radar and launcher ?
I want to replace the wheels by som e resin ones.

TIA



Frenchy
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Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 03:14 AM UTC

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What tire size have the radar and launcher ?



Looks like there were fitted with stock 9.00 x 20 nondirectional tread tires like the M35 truck series.




H.P.
Biggles2
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Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 04:18 AM UTC
Yeah, but if this is the old Revell kit from the '60's, isn't it in 1/40 scale?
uhu251
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Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 04:29 AM UTC
I’m not at home right now, but I’ve got photocopies of the NATO camo you need. I’ve had them since the 80s when a buddy in the Marines copied them for me from a TM. Been years since I looked at them. If I can find them I’ll post them for you.
bison126
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Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 04:36 AM UTC
Hi,
if you haven't decided which nationality you HAWK will be, have a look at my site in the section Real Ones, you'll find some pics of the launcher (page 1) and the associated radars (page 2) in three-tone camo in French service.
This is the PIP3 version before it was phased out. This is all my knowledge about this system so I can't tell you if it has visual differences with the Revell kit.

Olivier
bankmannl
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Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 04:54 AM UTC
Hi guys,

Frenchy, yes, that seems correct to me 9.00x20 tires
Biggels, scale is 1/32 !
John, YES...if you could mail them to me, please ????
Olivier, all my models are us army/USMC

Thanks guys for all the input.



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