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Dieppe Churchill
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Posted: Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 02:02 AM UTC
Jan Etal takes a look at and builds the Dragon Churchill Dieppe 1942 kit.

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Posted: Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 08:01 AM UTC
Jan,

As usual a nice in-depth review exposing all the nitty-gritty of the kit. Seems like an excessive price for such a flawed kit with limited parts! Thanks for the heads-up about it.

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AJ
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Posted: Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 02:52 PM UTC
Thanks for getting this one posted, Darren.

AJ,

Glad that you found the review informative. Us that do these reviews really appreciate acknowledgement of our efforts. As for the cost, I agree that is a bit much for what you get.

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Jan
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Posted: Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 07:37 PM UTC
Great review Jan, thanks!

I just finished one, and now waiting for paint -- it's my entry to the Churchill campaign. Reading thru your review was deja vu for me. I can live with the clean up work but what I didn't particularly liked was the mix-up on the sprockets and bogies. Ah yes, shortening the pin on the front sprocket as well -- took me a bit of time to figure that out. My first time with DS tracks -- was quite happy that no special adhesive is needed. The extended exhausts were a non-issue to me as I planned to depict a beute. Actually this is the reason why I waited for this release as I read that these Dieppe versions, are the ones that may appropriately be depicted as such. Price-wise, I think it depends on geography, as the kit over here retails for about US$16.

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Posted: Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 11:46 PM UTC
Very precise review.

The way ALL of them should be like.






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Posted: Friday, August 22, 2014 - 07:51 AM UTC
@tatbaqui - Tat,

Clean-up can be a bit of a chore and even inevitable with any kit but when it is excessive and combined with fit issues, it can take the fun of building away. How did you find the fit of the rear sprockets? Mine was absolutely horrible and took a lot of cutting and scraping to get the sprocket to fit. Knock on wood, I have had little to no problems with DS tracks.

Thanks for your response and confirmation of many of the kit flaws. Most appreciated. I'm just sorry that I didn't have this review done before you started your build. As for price, I do believe that there are "regional" variations that in some cases are quite large. I will say that an Internet search can yield much better prices than the MRSP in the review. A number of places were selling it for in the $18-$20 range.

@PantherF - Jeff,

One reason I started doing reviews and have stuck with it was all the near useless reviews that I read on various sites. It was a case of people praising a company and a kit and then finding out how flawed it is when I built it. Thanks for your comment!

Cheers,
Jan
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Posted: Sunday, August 24, 2014 - 07:52 PM UTC

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Jan Etal takes a look at and builds the Dragon Churchill Dieppe 1942 kit.

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If you have comments or questions please post them here.

Thanks!


THANKS, JAN & DARREN!!!

Question: Whatever happened to the 1/35 "Dieppe" Churchill that AFV CLUB advertised for the longest time? Is that kit going to go the way of the US M8 Howitzer Motor Carriage that AFV CLUB teased us with for several years, only to "disappear" it into the dark, reeking maw of model kits that were never born..?

And please, we can do without useless comments such as "We don't need a new 1/35 M8 HMC, because TAMIYA's ancient, inaccurate M8 is good enough...
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Posted: Monday, August 25, 2014 - 02:43 AM UTC

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How did you find the fit of the rear sprockets? Mine was absolutely horrible and took a lot of cutting and scraping to get the sprocket to fit.


Jan, I found it to be very tight on the first dry-fit attempt. Luckily I was able to remove it -- tenderly and slowly as I had a similar experience before, losing the connecting stub in the process. For me it still was manageable as the front sprockets were more of the hassle.



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Question: Whatever happened to the 1/35 "Dieppe" Churchill that AFV CLUB advertised for the longest time? Is that kit going to go the way of the US M8 Howitzer Motor Carriage that AFV CLUB teased us with for several years, only to "disappear" it into the dark, reeking maw of model kits that were never born..?


Dennis, if your's was a question of availability, the said kit has been out in the market since late last year. I don't recall seeing / reading reviews though.

Cheers,

Tat

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Posted: Monday, August 25, 2014 - 08:38 AM UTC
@M4A1Sherman - Dennis,

This review is for the following:



Please note that it is 1/72 scale and that size and smaller is pretty much all I do. I have little to no interest in 1/35, so your questions about the topic don't apply to this thread.

@tatbaqui


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Jan, I found it to be very tight on the first dry-fit attempt. Luckily I was able to remove it -- tenderly and slowly as I had a similar experience before, losing the connecting stub in the process. For me it still was manageable as the front sprockets were more of the hassle.


Thanks Tat, I guess there are some differences between the sprues in each box. The rear sprockets for the NA 75 Churchill needed sanding but the Dieppe one needed some severe trimming with a sharp blade to get them to fit. However, the NA 75 pin for the front sprockets was the same problem as with this kit. Go figure. Also, after dealing with the NA 75 front pin, the one on the Dieppe version was easier.

Cheers,
Jan
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Posted: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 - 05:29 AM UTC

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@M4A1Sherman - Dennis,

This review is for the following:



Please note that it is 1/72 scale and that size and smaller is pretty much all I do. I have little to no interest in 1/35, so your questions about the topic don't apply to this thread.

@tatbaqui


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Jan, I found it to be very tight on the first dry-fit attempt. Luckily I was able to remove it -- tenderly and slowly as I had a similar experience before, losing the connecting stub in the process. For me it still was manageable as the front sprockets were more of the hassle.


Thanks Tat, I guess there are some differences between the sprues in each box. The rear sprockets for the NA 75 Churchill needed sanding but the Dieppe one needed some severe trimming with a sharp blade to get them to fit. However, the NA 75 pin for the front sprockets was the same problem as with this kit. Go figure. Also, after dealing with the NA 75 front pin, the one on the Dieppe version was easier.

Cheers,
Jan


I am fully aware that this is a 1/72 kit. You should realize that some of us are more flexible in our modelling interests and sometimes DO model in different scales. All I did was mention the 1/35 Churchill. I didn't realize that it was already on sale for a year. I've been busy with buying and building WWII and modern US AFVs, WWII 1/48 Aircraft and I haven't really bothered with anything else, except for the occasional Steam Era HO brass locomotives...

By the way, was it YOU that made up the rules about what should and shouldn't be discussed on this modelling site?
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Posted: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 - 07:14 AM UTC
Dennis I think you are reading to much into this and was in no way that I can see an affront. On the subject of the AFV Club 1/35th scale Dieppe Churchill, I have it in my grubby little hands from AFV Club last week and a review will be up soon.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 - 11:30 PM UTC

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Dennis I think you are reading to much into this and was in no way that I can see an affront. On the subject of the AFV Club 1/35th scale Dieppe Churchill, I have it in my grubby little hands from AFV Club last week and a review will be up soon.


Sorry that I took it that way; Mea Culpa
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