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Posted: Friday, August 29, 2014 - 08:07 AM UTC


Some new kits are on the way from Dragon that include a new Panther variant and a Hummel-Wespe.

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Posted: Friday, August 29, 2014 - 09:59 AM UTC
"The Panther and the Bumble-bee", isn't that an Aesop fable? But seriously, what's the difference between this Panther F and a few previous Panther F's?
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Posted: Friday, August 29, 2014 - 10:08 AM UTC

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But seriously, what's the difference between this Panther F and a few previous Panther F's?


Right here: " The first is a Panther Ausf.F with the long 7.5cm. The kit will include the narrow front Schmalturm turret, DS track, and photo-etched parts."

I for one WANT IT!






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Posted: Friday, August 29, 2014 - 11:08 AM UTC
my new-kit-boner for most DML releases has long ago gone flacid... (sorry for the overshare.. )

But a wot-if Panther F might get my attention, once the intial fervor dies down a bit and they are out there for someting near $35.
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Posted: Friday, August 29, 2014 - 11:38 AM UTC

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But seriously, what's the difference between this Panther F and a few previous Panther F's?


Right here: " The first is a Panther Ausf.F with the long 7.5cm. The kit will include the narrow front Schmalturm turret, DS track, and photo-etched parts."

I for one WANT IT!





Jeff



Long barrel as in L100?
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Posted: Friday, August 29, 2014 - 11:41 AM UTC
Does this Panther have any basis in reality or is it a WOT inspired creation?
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Posted: Friday, August 29, 2014 - 11:50 AM UTC

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Does this Panther have any basis in reality or is it a WOT inspired creation?


On paper maybe, but as built, I doubt. Happy to be corrected. Cheers
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Posted: Friday, August 29, 2014 - 12:00 PM UTC
I was planned for 1945, but never made it to production, and yes it is the L/100
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Posted: Friday, August 29, 2014 - 01:21 PM UTC
Really wish they'd release a 1/35 Wespe on the Pz II chassis. They have the vehicle and a Marder II on the chassis, and the gun. Oh, and individual link tracks, please.
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Posted: Saturday, August 30, 2014 - 08:33 AM UTC
Did Dragon ever have plans to do a "Panther A" with zimmerit? Love to have one regardless of some folks complaining about Dragon and German armor.
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Posted: Saturday, August 30, 2014 - 10:38 AM UTC
I love the auto translation:
" Of course, the 100-caliber gun is a brand new component, and modelers will be impressed with its length."
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Posted: Saturday, August 30, 2014 - 12:22 PM UTC

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I was planned for 1945, but never made it to production, and yes it is the L/100


Thanks Kevin. It sure is one long barrel with a muzzle brake to boot! Cheers
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Posted: Saturday, August 30, 2014 - 12:42 PM UTC

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Really wish they'd release a 1/35 Wespe on the Pz II chassis. They have the vehicle and a Marder II on the chassis, and the gun. Oh, and individual link tracks, please.


I've had the Tamiya kit on my shelf for a while, I guess as soon as I get around to it dragon will announce thiers. It really needs aftermarket tracks but since dragon seems to have abandoned magic track in favor of DS the same would be true of a dragon kit.

Was the 10.5cm hummel ever actually built or was it just a proposal, and if it was did it see service? I dont recall ever seeing a photograph of one.
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Posted: Saturday, August 30, 2014 - 01:42 PM UTC

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Was the 10.5cm hummel ever actually built or was it just a proposal, and if it was did it see service? I dont recall ever seeing a photograph of one.


Yes, there was a couple hundred built and used prior to the Wespe being built.

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Posted: Monday, September 01, 2014 - 03:56 AM UTC
The Hummel was an important vehicle for units like the Leibstandarte AH, so I'm glad to see more kits like that.
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Posted: Monday, September 01, 2014 - 04:35 AM UTC

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Was the 10.5cm hummel ever actually built or was it just a proposal, and if it was did it see service? I dont recall ever seeing a photograph of one.


Yes, there was a couple hundred built and used prior to the Wespe being built.



Do you have any source or reference for that? I'd be interested in seeing it. Did some googling and the only information I could find indicated that the 10.5cm (as opposed to the normal 15cm) was mounted on the hummel chassis at the very end of the war after wespe production had stopped, and that there is only one extant photograph, supposedly postwar.

I'm not saying you are wrong and what I read is correct, I'm just curious about a vehicle I'd never heard of before this thread and would like to know more.

Edit: I've got Dragon's 6321 Hummel kit mostly complete in a box somewhere and aside from some very minor fit issues it's a fantastic kit. Probably the only negative from this new kit will be the fact that it has DS tracks on a PzIV vehicle.
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Posted: Monday, September 01, 2014 - 04:56 AM UTC

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Was the 10.5cm hummel ever actually built or was it just a proposal, and if it was did it see service? I dont recall ever seeing a photograph of one.


Yes, there was a couple hundred built and used prior to the Wespe being built.



Do you have any source or reference for that? I'd be interested in seeing it. Did some googling and the only information I could find indicated that the 10.5cm (as opposed to the normal 15cm) was mounted on the hummel chassis at the very end of the war after wespe production had stopped, and that there is only one extant photograph, supposedly postwar.

I'm not saying you are wrong and what I read is correct, I'm just curious about a vehicle I'd never heard of before this thread and would like to know more.

Edit: I've got Dragon's 6321 Hummel kit mostly complete in a box somewhere and aside from some very minor fit issues it's a fantastic kit. Probably the only negative from this new kit will be the fact that it has DS tracks on a PzIV vehicle.


I stand corrected, I had miss read it, the 10.5cm was only a prototype, that was then mounted on the Wespe. You are correct in that the Hummel Wespe did mount the 15cm.

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Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 - 06:57 PM UTC
Model policy of Dragon sucks. Period!
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