Hey guys, newby here.
I switched recently to vallejo acrylics from revell enamels, due to I have moved to my house and I do not want to use enamels, mostly for health issues.
so, I switched to vallejo acrylics and I have tried to drybrush a model that I was working on, but I just cant! It dries too quickly!
so I watched a video on youtube regarding how to use vallejo paints.
the artist doesnt drybrush the model at all! On the contrary he paints the details with lighter colours and then he pinwash and afterwards he uses vallejo washes. But no drybrushing!
So any ideas? Is this the correct way on using acrylics?
Cause I do not like the end result. ...
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No drybrushing using vallejo?
pasxalis1987
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Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 - 06:23 AM UTC
Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 - 06:34 AM UTC
I dry brush with vallejo and have no issues.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 - 06:38 AM UTC
I have drybrushed with them without issues. Are you getting anything off the brush at all? Or just not enough for what you are trying to do?
pasxalis1987
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Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 - 06:41 AM UTC
Nothing at all!
The result is zero!
Note that I didnt sprayed mat varnish prior drybrushing...
The result is zero!
Note that I didnt sprayed mat varnish prior drybrushing...
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Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 - 07:00 AM UTC
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Nothing at all!
The result is zero!
Note that I didnt sprayed mat varnish prior drybrushing...
Try to add some retarder to the paint, and it shouldnt dry so fast. Vallejo have their own, but almost any retarder will work.
pasxalis1987
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Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 - 07:12 AM UTC
Can I just add water?
The store does not supply paint retarder.....
The store does not supply paint retarder.....
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Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 - 07:17 AM UTC
If the artist on the video uses that procedure and it works,then it must be correct for him.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 - 07:20 AM UTC
I'll second the retarder. You should be able to find it in a good art supply store. If they don't have any in country, order some. I'm wondering if it's too warm and dry where you are and the paint is just drying that much faster? A drop extra of water wouldn't hurt and maybe some flow enhancer. The technique you saw is sort of the same thing, just applying different tones to highlights. The down side is that it takes a lot longer. The plus side is you can be a lot more precise. You might want to experiment with different brushes as well.
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pasxalis1987
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Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 - 07:25 AM UTC
Thnx for your reply!
Yes, in Cyprus it is a bit hot....
So you suggest using that technique of applying tones can be consider an orthodox way of modeling?
Cause with the drybrushing the results are much better.
Yes, in Cyprus it is a bit hot....
So you suggest using that technique of applying tones can be consider an orthodox way of modeling?
Cause with the drybrushing the results are much better.
Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 - 08:40 AM UTC
If your model is gloss, there is no tooth to catch the paint.
Drybrushing works best on a matte surface.
Cheers,
Joe
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Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 - 10:46 AM UTC
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Thnx for your reply!
Yes, in Cyprus it is a bit hot....
So you suggest using that technique of applying tones can be consider an orthodox way of modeling?
Cause with the drybrushing the results are much better.
It's just another technique to use along side dry brushing, especially if you have well defined ridges and bumps or edges. Use the side of the brush rather than the point. And Joe may have found the answer with the gloss not catching the paint.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 - 04:55 AM UTC
Agree about the flat coat. If you are trying it over a gloss coat it will not work as well.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 - 07:09 AM UTC
There's several different dry brushing methods with several different combinations of paint, thinner, water, brushes, stroke technique.
Vallejo is a good paint & shouldn't give you problems. Try thinning with water instead of thinner . Or try a bigger brush..with the hairs soft & spread out. The type of brush is important. The amount of paint on your brush is important, the amount of "pressure + angle of attack " with your brush is important.
The best answer is "practice" with different techniques , you will get it. Vallejo is a good "brush" paint so you shouldn't be having any problem.
Vallejo is a good paint & shouldn't give you problems. Try thinning with water instead of thinner . Or try a bigger brush..with the hairs soft & spread out. The type of brush is important. The amount of paint on your brush is important, the amount of "pressure + angle of attack " with your brush is important.
The best answer is "practice" with different techniques , you will get it. Vallejo is a good "brush" paint so you shouldn't be having any problem.
pasxalis1987
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Posted: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 - 09:48 PM UTC
Thnx for the replies guys!
I'll give it a try and i will let you know!
I'll give it a try and i will let you know!
pasxalis1987
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Posted: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 - 07:42 PM UTC
Hi!
Yes, when i sprayed mat varnished, then i did drybrushed the model and the result was excellent!!!!
thank you for your help! However, in order for the paint not to dry too fast, what i did was to wet a tissue and place it over a nylon bag (similar item will work just fine) and place on the wet tissue some paint in order to keep it wet for some time.
Thnx for your help guys!
Yes, when i sprayed mat varnished, then i did drybrushed the model and the result was excellent!!!!
thank you for your help! However, in order for the paint not to dry too fast, what i did was to wet a tissue and place it over a nylon bag (similar item will work just fine) and place on the wet tissue some paint in order to keep it wet for some time.
Thnx for your help guys!