Hi Amoramians! (amora?)

I could really need some help as there is two treats to my advance.

1. Im building a roof/floor section in a building. Board, beam and board. But what is between the boards, in the empty space that is created by the beam? Insulation? What does it look like?

2. Im also looking for a picture that could be used as a backdrop. Im looking for a picture portraying as if one is looking out from a window on the second floor and see other houses that looks like the buildings in Arnhem. In colour.

Any volounteers?

Ola Toke

I don`t think they had much insulation in those days. Meaning between the floors. Usually you will find just empty Places between the ceiling and the floor. A empty (with air filled) room also insulates. Looking at our own house (wich stands for 30 years now) has also not any kind of Insulation in the floors. Only the roof itself has insulation.
Now I`m typing this but I`m not a building constructor or something but I believe I have seen/read it like this.

Now on the backdrop for your dio. I think all the backdrops of Dutch Villages almost look the same as long as the houses look old. I will look through my own collection of reference pics and on the internet and if I find something I will send it to you or post it here.

Toke.... you came to the right place

A year ago I wouldn't have been able to answer your first question, but a visit to Oosterbeek (Near Arnhem and in the middle of the fightings in 1944) a few months ago revealed the answer to your question. In the empty spaces is ......straw.... you know the kind they put on rooftops.....

The second question is harder.... since the hole area in Arnhem was destroyed during the battle for the bridge, it has totaly been rebuilt. Nowadays it's a very modern town, with little evidence of those old buildings near the bridge...

What I can do, is that I send you a screenshot from the movie "A Bridge Too Far" with the requested scene.... (if there is one, but I think there is). I don't think there are many colorpics from the actual area as in 1944 and it's out of the question that you can make those pics nowadays.

Thanks for the information so for gentlemen.

Straw, hm Ive never thought of that. I know that moss where used here in scandinavia and had that in mind but I wasnt sure. And that was good thing I wasnt.

The picture does not have to be authentic. Something that could be believed or mistaken for Arnhem will do. But it would be great to have the bridge itself in the background.

TOKE,

I'll have another look at the movie A Bridge Too Far (124.581th time I think ) and I'll try to forward a (few) screenshots. I hope to have them on your desk later this weekend.

If you want you can probably put some waterpipes and electrical wiring in between the joists

I personally would leave them empty. Between the ground floor and the first floor, there is not much need for insulation. If the gap is bothering you too much ... add some rubble!

Eagle ......... I would really appreciate it if you were scanning through the film and if at all possible you could scan a picture of the road view near the pillars on the bridge. Actually any side barriers of the bridge would be helpful. I have an idea and need the bridge as part of the scene and backdrop. Thanks a million!

I don't know if the Europeans did it this way but I was renovating an 1864 Victorian farmhouse in the US and the ceilings where not board but lathe (spelling). Basically it was small strips approximately 1 inch wide and 3 feet long side by side with just a small gap in between. Plaster was applied to the lathe. In my case the walls were stuffed solid with wool in the gaps you speak of..

Here is a home renovations article
http://www2.cr.nps.gov/tps/briefs/brief21.htm

in my house, the gap is empty, just lots of dust, but then again british houses may be built differently to dutch ones,

cheers

joe

I once tore up an old farmhouse that was built on frame flooring... the space on the ground between the gaps was floored by gravel, but the rest was just "air"....

Here is the best I could do.....





I hope it helps.

~Katyusha~

Here are some screenshots. I hope they help

Thank you very much Eagle!

I owe you one or two. I hope I will be able to return the favour one day.

No Problem Toke,

it's not a real punishment to have to watch a movie you love

It was a pleasure to be able to help.