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Dragon: 5cm Panzer IVPosted: Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 02:27 AM UTC
Coming soon from Dragon Models is a different variant of the Pz.Kpfw.IV mounting a 5cm gun.
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C_JACQUEMONT
Loire-Atlantique, France
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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 02:46 AM UTC
Running out of variants to do?
RobinNilsson
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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 03:33 AM UTC
The next variant would be the right hand drive Pz IV D that was produced as two prototypes in preparation for Operation Seelöwe (the cross channel invasion of Britain after the Battle for France). Someone had the Bright idea that they needed a right hand drive version since the British drive on the left side of the road. The design work was easy, most of the drawings and templates could simply be mirrored. When Operation Seelöwe came to nothing the plan was to use the mirrored Pz IV's in pairs with normal Pz IV's to work in 'kumpel gruppen' (buddy groups) to have the radio operator / hull machine gunner on the outboard positions when two tanks drove across the Russian steppe to provide better observation coverage and MG-fire. After a while the whole scheme was abandoned as completely brainless. Now that we finally get the 5 cm L/60 version I really hope that the Pz IV D (L), L for Linksverkehr, would be the next in line
acebatau
Colorado, United States
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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 04:35 PM UTC
Where's Stug III E, promised long time ago?
easyco69
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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 02:23 AM UTC
easyco69
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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 02:25 AM UTC
That is a variant that I was looking for last yr. I was wondering if anyone made one with a PAK 38 ...well, what the heck. I want!
easyco69
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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 02:28 AM UTC
lol
panzerbob01
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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 05:58 AM UTC
David;
One of those long-hinted-at (maybe even promised) grails!
Ref the Dragon StuG III ausf E.... I think we are all thinking a "new-tool" E - that CH orange box E is the quite elderly Dragon E kit 9106 re-boxed with some figures and a set of MagicTracks. We are hoping for a new-tool E along the lines of Dragon's new-tool F/8 in a couple of versions, with up-to-date hull and fenders, wheels, details, and maybe the interior at least to the extent D has provided for its F/8 and G StuG III kits.
That CH orange E builds up OK (I have one about 90% done...) - it looks pretty much like a III-E - but really wants a lot of AM and upgrades to get nearer to modern StuG III kits (and builds) standards. I replaced all wheels with new items, metal barrel, lots of scratch details, added welds, etc., really should have added metal or even newer-model styrene fenders (but budget and resource limits got in the way of that), and I still need to button it all up as there is no interior stuff to see.
Cheers!
Bob
PS: That IV with the scabbed-on 5cm PaK 38 .... some sort of rear-area shop "horror"! Now THAT would certainly be an interesting "one-off" for CH to kit up! Bet that one could sell pretty well!
One of those long-hinted-at (maybe even promised) grails!
Ref the Dragon StuG III ausf E.... I think we are all thinking a "new-tool" E - that CH orange box E is the quite elderly Dragon E kit 9106 re-boxed with some figures and a set of MagicTracks. We are hoping for a new-tool E along the lines of Dragon's new-tool F/8 in a couple of versions, with up-to-date hull and fenders, wheels, details, and maybe the interior at least to the extent D has provided for its F/8 and G StuG III kits.
That CH orange E builds up OK (I have one about 90% done...) - it looks pretty much like a III-E - but really wants a lot of AM and upgrades to get nearer to modern StuG III kits (and builds) standards. I replaced all wheels with new items, metal barrel, lots of scratch details, added welds, etc., really should have added metal or even newer-model styrene fenders (but budget and resource limits got in the way of that), and I still need to button it all up as there is no interior stuff to see.
Cheers!
Bob
PS: That IV with the scabbed-on 5cm PaK 38 .... some sort of rear-area shop "horror"! Now THAT would certainly be an interesting "one-off" for CH to kit up! Bet that one could sell pretty well!
Modelltreff
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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 01:13 PM UTC
Don't get it...
easyco69
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Posted: Monday, October 27, 2014 - 12:53 AM UTC
Panzerbob01- I know, some of those orange box kits are just gross lol
easyco69
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Posted: Monday, October 27, 2014 - 12:55 AM UTC
One they should do is the SU-76(i)
panzerbob01
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Posted: Monday, October 27, 2014 - 02:12 AM UTC
Quoted Text
One they should do is the SU-76(i)
NO NO NO! They should NOT do that! Else I would end up having to buy another kit!
Bob
nng-nng
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Posted: Monday, October 27, 2014 - 03:55 AM UTC
Quoted Text
PS: That IV with the scabbed-on 5cm PaK 38 .... some sort of rear-area shop "horror"! Now THAT would certainly be an interesting "one-off" for CH to kit up! Bet that one could sell pretty well!
Mhh... finaly I know what to do with all the spares from my Panzer IV kits... perfect for a horror spares kitbash. no need for a kit here