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KV-1S/85 - Trumpeter - 1:35
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Posted: Saturday, November 01, 2014 - 12:14 AM UTC
Next beast from russian part of my collection:

1. T-26 done 1937
2. BT-7
3. T-28
4. T-34/76 done 1942
5. T-34/85
6. KV-1/KW-2 at workshop KV-1S/85
7. IS-2 done
8. Su-76
9. Su-85/100 at workshop Su-100
10. Su-122
11. ISU-152 done




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Posted: Saturday, November 01, 2014 - 11:29 AM UTC
Looking good, quick question this kit can be built as a KV-1S or a KV-85, or some odd varient. I would like to build a KV-85 and I wasn't sure if this was the kit I needed.

Tom
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Posted: Saturday, November 01, 2014 - 03:56 PM UTC

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Looking good, quick question this kit can be built as a KV-1S or a KV-85, or some odd varient. I would like to build a KV-85 and I wasn't sure if this was the kit I needed.

Tom


No, no, no, this is NOT a KV-85. This is a kit of a single prototype built mainly to demonstrate that the KV1S turret was too cramped for a crew to serve the 85mm weapon. It was assembled at the same time as the KV-85 prototype and the IS-1 (IS-85) prototype in July-August, 1943 (contrary to popular belief, the Soviets were already developing up-gunned heavy tanks before the Battle of Kursk).
As expected, the the KV-1S-85 was impossibly cramped, and was rejected. The second two prototypes were cleared for production--the KV-85, as it could be produced almost immediately, and the better-armored IS-1, which would be ready for production about two months later. The new turret for the 122mm-armed IS-2 was already being developed before the IS-1 even entered production.
Trumpeter does have a KV-85 kit, but it has some problems. The tracks are the wrong width, being KV-1 tracks, and the turret shell is that of an IS-2, which had a rounded upper left rear corner and a different left side contour. You could cross-kit the turret shell from the old Eastern Express/Ark KV-85 kit (though it also needs a slight reshaping of the left side and left rear contours), or you could just wait for Bronco's KV-85 kit, which appears to be correct, based on the images they've released.
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Posted: Saturday, November 01, 2014 - 06:10 PM UTC
Thanks Gerald I will wait for the Broncos kit, its not like I have nothing to build. I really appreciate your quick reply. Thanks again.

Tom
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Posted: Monday, November 03, 2014 - 05:38 AM UTC
Black Pactra instead of mr.Surfacer and green:





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Posted: Sunday, November 09, 2014 - 06:44 PM UTC
Sidolux, decals, wash, chipping:



Corporal_PL
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Posted: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 - 01:55 AM UTC
KV done:




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Posted: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 - 07:31 AM UTC
Great finish!
GeraldOwens
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Posted: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 - 02:27 PM UTC
Interesting "what-if" version. Of course, the tank was never produced, for the Guards divisions, or anybody else. But it looks beautiful!
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Posted: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 - 09:01 PM UTC
Yes, turret was too small for 85mm gun. Russians build only one prototype but experiences was used at build KV-85
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