_GOTOBOTTOM
Dioramas: Water Effects
Water! A sometimes intimidating effect.
Hosted by Darren Baker
Making a splash
panzerconor
Visit this Community
Massachusetts, United States
Joined: February 08, 2012
KitMaker: 1,271 posts
Armorama: 1,253 posts
Posted: Saturday, November 15, 2014 - 11:33 AM UTC
I've seen a few dioramas with great water effects- splashes, bullet impacts, explosions, etc... But what materials get those effects? I've seen some people cut up the tops of water bottles to use...

Pawl T. made a Pacific diorama a while back, and the water effects I'm looking for are pretty much the same:




That stuff (Pawel's) is likely far out of my skill range, but I can't learn if I don't try first! I know Vallejo makes a gel for water effects, and there's a few resin products out there too. Any specific products out there?

-Conor
sdk10159
Visit this Community
Oregon, United States
Joined: December 08, 2005
KitMaker: 556 posts
Armorama: 433 posts
Posted: Saturday, November 15, 2014 - 02:35 PM UTC
Hi Conor,

CHeck out the works of Jim Wechsler over on Track-link.

http://www.track-link.com/gallery/4994
http://www.track-link.com/gallery/6068


He uses a two part resin product called Enviotek lite for his water effects. You can buy this stuff at Michaels.
roudeleiw
Visit this Community
Luxembourg
Joined: January 19, 2004
KitMaker: 2,406 posts
Armorama: 2,224 posts
Posted: Saturday, November 15, 2014 - 03:15 PM UTC
Reading the feature over on Tracklink, I would say that he did the splashes with "clear silicon caulking". It is often used over on Armorama Shipwrights too for making the waves.

The Envoritex is of no use here. It would, but just if you catch the exact few minutes after a couple of hours of drying time where the resin does not flow back in position.

Greets

Claude


wapel00
Visit this Community
Gdańsk, Poland
Joined: February 25, 2012
KitMaker: 130 posts
Armorama: 127 posts
Posted: Saturday, November 15, 2014 - 05:47 PM UTC
Conor, the splashes are really easy to make. The upper part of the splash I made by heating a transparent frame from some kit (for example periscopes) above the candle and pulling it.
The lower part was made with a use of some kind of silicone (transparent glue exactly - like this http://www.pattex.pl/pl/produkty/kleje-montazove/fix-total-bezbarwny.html )
It was formed by a toothpick, I think.
regards!
panzerconor
Visit this Community
Massachusetts, United States
Joined: February 08, 2012
KitMaker: 1,271 posts
Armorama: 1,253 posts
Posted: Sunday, November 16, 2014 - 10:37 AM UTC
Thanks a lot fellas.

Pawel, did you use that clear silicone for the entire body of water? My figures would only be about ankle deep but I think the same approach as you did there would work.

-Conor
wapel00
Visit this Community
Gdańsk, Poland
Joined: February 25, 2012
KitMaker: 130 posts
Armorama: 127 posts
Posted: Monday, November 17, 2014 - 02:04 AM UTC
No Conor, main part of the water was made by use of two parts resin (resin+hardener), I used Andrea's Artifical Water but now I know that resin that is used by stone craftsman is the best. This one - http://www.novol.pl/att/1/karty_techniczne/a-ST-9-04_klar_e.pdf

litte waves on the surface - by MIG resin
splashes - silicone glue and transparent sprue
panzerconor
Visit this Community
Massachusetts, United States
Joined: February 08, 2012
KitMaker: 1,271 posts
Armorama: 1,253 posts
Posted: Thursday, November 20, 2014 - 08:46 AM UTC
Thanks Pawel, I think I got exactly what I needed to know from you and the other guys. Doesn't seem nearly as difficult as I though it would be.
 _GOTOTOP