Greetings guys,
I would like to share with you my 4th model, Dragon's Late Tiger I with moulded zimmerit.
I wasn't going for historical accuracy (all i found out that this 112 was destroyed in Villers Bocage) but that wasn't my intention. Just wanted to build and enjoy. And I sure did. I was going for a well dusted look, dunno if my humble efforts managed to do that.
It was painted and weathered with Vallejo products.
All comments and especially critics are more than welcome.
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Dragon Tiger I Late w/ Zimmerit (1:35)
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2014 - 03:31 AM UTC
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2014 - 04:48 AM UTC
Looks like you did a pretty nice job on it, Sasa. I only spot 2 things that are bothersome.
First is that the tracks are too loose. I know it's a common problem when using one piece tracks and hard to avoid. In the future you might try test fitting the tracks before gluing the idlers in place. You may have been able to do some adjusting to compensate for the length.
The other item are the areas in the zim that are cut out for the markings. Is that something you did, or is the kit molded like that? I find it hard to believe the factory would bother doing it, and after it's applied, I don't think crews would chip it off just for markings.
First is that the tracks are too loose. I know it's a common problem when using one piece tracks and hard to avoid. In the future you might try test fitting the tracks before gluing the idlers in place. You may have been able to do some adjusting to compensate for the length.
The other item are the areas in the zim that are cut out for the markings. Is that something you did, or is the kit molded like that? I find it hard to believe the factory would bother doing it, and after it's applied, I don't think crews would chip it off just for markings.
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2014 - 05:08 AM UTC
VERY NICE ! Just like how I like my women..dirty!
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2014 - 05:10 AM UTC
Hi Bob, thanks for your reply.
As for the tracks, they are DS, one piece. I did remove two links on each side to get a proper fit and after glueing them with CA glue on top of wheels they seemed OK. This "sag" (or maybe distortion is a better word) seen in photos I believe is the result of moveable swing arms so any manipulation with them after they are in place can make them seem too lose. But when you push the upper part of the track over the wheels with a flat stick, they seem to be relatively OK again. Not perfect, I know, but OK.
As for the cut out portion of zimm for markings, yes, I had to cut them out myself as instruction suggested. Also, if you look at the photos of 112 that was knocked out in Villers Bocage, you can see that it was cut out (left side shows marking in a cut out zimmerit, while right side shows marking on an area where zimm fell off.
As for the tracks, they are DS, one piece. I did remove two links on each side to get a proper fit and after glueing them with CA glue on top of wheels they seemed OK. This "sag" (or maybe distortion is a better word) seen in photos I believe is the result of moveable swing arms so any manipulation with them after they are in place can make them seem too lose. But when you push the upper part of the track over the wheels with a flat stick, they seem to be relatively OK again. Not perfect, I know, but OK.
As for the cut out portion of zimm for markings, yes, I had to cut them out myself as instruction suggested. Also, if you look at the photos of 112 that was knocked out in Villers Bocage, you can see that it was cut out (left side shows marking in a cut out zimmerit, while right side shows marking on an area where zimm fell off.
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2014 - 05:15 AM UTC
Correction to my observation on 112. The photo I was reffering to was in fact Wittman's 212, but it's the same, zimm seems to be cut out for markings.
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2014 - 03:54 PM UTC
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Correction to my observation on 112. The photo I was reffering to was in fact Wittman's 212, but it's the same, zimm seems to be cut out for markings.
That stuff was so hard after being cured I'm surprised they bothered when the markings would have shown just as well if applied on the zim. I stand educated.
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2014 - 06:40 PM UTC
Bob, you are right about the tracks - way too wavy and should at least have been glued down so they didn't appear to be "floating" above the wheels. But on the matter of the cutout portion of the zimmerit for the insignia - check out this photo of a Tiger I of 501st SS Sch. Abt. from Normandy:
This wasn't a universal practice but it did occur on some vehicles.
This wasn't a universal practice but it did occur on some vehicles.
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2014 - 06:53 PM UTC
Wow, I really do like this one.Camo, weathering, decals snagged down great in the zimm.Shame about the tracks.
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2014 - 07:50 PM UTC
Hi guys, thanks for interest and comments.
Here are 2 pics of the tracks taken from the side after i pushed them down with flat stick. I think that appears to look better. Again, they are glued to top of the wheels, but my opinion is that DS tracks and moveable arms are the reason for that loose appearance.
P.S. Please do not notice how I forgot to dirty the area behind wheels. Gonna fix that today.
Here are 2 pics of the tracks taken from the side after i pushed them down with flat stick. I think that appears to look better. Again, they are glued to top of the wheels, but my opinion is that DS tracks and moveable arms are the reason for that loose appearance.
P.S. Please do not notice how I forgot to dirty the area behind wheels. Gonna fix that today.
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2014 - 08:01 PM UTC
You might want to try to glue the tracks down to the top of the sprockets, too. They kind of float coming off the sprockets, if you see what I mean.
Thanks for the pic Kevin.
Thanks for the pic Kevin.
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2014 - 08:24 PM UTC
Yes, you are absolutely right. Funny how I tend to miss out such obvious things...
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2014 - 11:22 PM UTC
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Yes, you are absolutely right. Funny how I tend to miss out such obvious things...
We all do it. That's the benefit of posting the stuff on here and getting a few more eyeballs on it.