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Roofing in North France/Belgium
Sean50
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Posted: Monday, November 24, 2014 - 02:51 AM UTC
Hello there,

Is there anyone here who can tell me if there was anything particularly striking or different in the timber work used for the roofs of brick houses in the north of France/Belgium? Pre-1914, that is.

Google search results seem to concentrate on grander buildings like churches, I'm interested in a normal house in a small town.

Any pointer or leads would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Sean
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Posted: Monday, November 24, 2014 - 06:18 AM UTC
The standard house would have timber rafters in an A shape. Run across these horizontally would be thin wood strips spaced evenly. The ceramic tiles were hung on these strips.
Very simple. Usually the only variation was the material used for the roof tiles.
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Posted: Monday, November 24, 2014 - 10:49 PM UTC
Thanks Jerry,

As I suspected (hoped ), pretty standard.

Cheers,

Sean
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Posted: Monday, November 24, 2014 - 11:29 PM UTC


Hi Sean,

a quick Google search produced this:

https://www.google.at/search?q=construction+toiture+1900&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=r8l0VKOdIYLKaP7YgbAM&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1344&bih=722

You might find valuable info there already!

Am I right that you live in northern France....well, go out and find corresponding old buildings!

Cheers

Romain

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Posted: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 - 12:50 AM UTC
Thanks Romain,

I did find some stuff there, thanks. A slightly different phrase can make a difference

I live in West France- the architecture is a little different, I just wondered if there was anything specific about the regions further north/east. I do have plenty of references for Norman buildings, don't worry.

Cheers,

Sean
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Posted: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 - 02:25 AM UTC
Hello Sean ,

i live 15 Km from the French border and approximately 30 Km from Lille. I'll show you a picture of a roof taken from the inside of an old Flemish shed . As you will notice the timberwork is beautiful preserved unfortunately they are going to demolish it within a few weeks to make some space for a modern building.

here's the photo .



Regards ,

Kurt
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Posted: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 - 01:32 PM UTC

Hej Kurt,

what a pity they are tearing that beauty down!!

Any more pics...if not, go there at once and take some more!!!!!

Thanks for posting m8!!!

Cheers

Romain

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Posted: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 - 01:49 PM UTC
Thanks very much, Kurt.

I'll echo Romain's sentiments, too...

Cheers,

Sean
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Posted: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 - 07:30 PM UTC
Hate to see that get torn down. Hopefully someone will at least save some of the old beams? Probably oak/eicke?
We have people here that do that and put them to good use.
J
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Posted: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 - 11:16 PM UTC
Hey Romain , Sean and Jerry ,

there is hope , i've heard that the roof should be spared from demolishing...however it is not sure yet !

This building stands in the Belgian town of Courtrai ! This shed was part of a former Soap factory and right now it is jused as a parking garage.



@ Jerry i'll hope to give you more info about the type of wood and the condition of the beams.

@ Sean , no thanks my pleasure (c'est avec plaisir monsieur !)

Kurt
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Posted: Thursday, November 27, 2014 - 12:08 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Hey Romain , Sean and Jerry ,

there is hope , i've heard that the roof should be spared from demolishing...however it is not sure yet !

This building stands in the Belgian town of Courtrai ! This shed was part of a former Soap factory and right now it is jused as a parking garage.

@ Jerry i'll hope to give you more info about the type of wood and the condition of the beams.

@ Sean , no thanks my pleasure (c'est avec plaisir monsieur !)

Kurt


Hey Guys ,

i received this photo just 5 minutes ago


Stay tuned !

Kurt
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Posted: Friday, November 28, 2014 - 05:13 PM UTC
I'm back with better pics of the shed. Unfortunately it can not being seen from the streetside because of a massive apartment building that stands in front of the shed .

I took photos from the roof from the outside and inside and the wooden structure or frame remained in its condition for more than 114 years. There is a little bit of fungus noticeable over some parts of the wood but generally it's in great shape. The type of wood of the beams is Oak by the way.

Let's go back in time....erround the year 1900 .












And maybe this wall is interesting too ? It is a very old garden wall , the garden is gone but the wall still remains....the garden belonged to the owners of the soap factory


Some details...


And in this building were the offices...



I hope this was interesting ???

Kurt
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Posted: Friday, November 28, 2014 - 06:24 PM UTC


That's extremely interesting!!

Thanks a lot for these pics Kurt!!

Cheers

Romain

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Posted: Friday, November 28, 2014 - 06:53 PM UTC
Some nice building details for sure. Very complicated roof.
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Posted: Saturday, November 29, 2014 - 04:24 PM UTC
Thanks very much indeed Kurt!

Fantastic stuff!

Cheers

Sean
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Posted: Sunday, November 30, 2014 - 02:42 AM UTC
The pleasure is mine ,guys !

The building(not the roof) could be much older than i thought , i think probably from the 18th century ??? However it's not sure !

Cheers ,

Kurt
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Posted: Sunday, November 30, 2014 - 05:46 AM UTC
Hard to tell about the walls of this shed. They look like brickwork from the 1800s maybe? The roof is also not too old. It looks like the big wooden beam in the middle that rests on the pillar is an old piece of hand hewn oak. But it was taken from another building and used here. You can see the notches cut into it that are not in the right place for this building.
So that beam could be pretty old as it is hand hewn. The rest of the wood is cut by a saw mill and so is much newer.
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Posted: Monday, December 01, 2014 - 01:32 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Hard to tell about the walls of this shed. They look like brickwork from the 1800s maybe? The roof is also not too old. It looks like the big wooden beam in the middle that rests on the pillar is an old piece of hand hewn oak. But it was taken from another building and used here. You can see the notches cut into it that are not in the right place for this building.
So that beam could be pretty old as it is hand hewn. The rest of the wood is cut by a saw mill and so is much newer.
J


Hi Jerry ,

i think you are right about the wood structure , it's definitely not the original roof .

I did also a little research on the net and found a map of the town, the map was drown by hand by a Monk in the year 1649. These type of brick made sheds already existed ..... but that 's a very long time ago....from the time that Amerika was still a colony of france and England with few European inhabitants struggling to survive....and a lot of Native Americans

Could it be that old?? .....It's a nice thought !

Kurt
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