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Stalingrad tanks
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Posted: Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 09:20 PM UTC
G'day tankers! i need some help and thought id be best of coming to you blokes for the answers, dont come here to often anyway, i would like to know which tanks where used by the germans and russians in stalingrad, i take it the T-34/36 was pretty common? but im not too sure what others, not sure about any german tanks either, so if someone could help me out id really appreciate it, cheers
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Posted: Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 11:38 PM UTC
KV1' s Russian
German unlimted Panzer III ausf E F L anything before that also
Panzer IV's Panzer II's Early hummels,250's, 222's, ETC....
Here is link I got from here http://feldpost.mzv.net/Fotos_Stalingrad/fotos_stalingrad.html (++)
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Virginia, United States
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Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2004 - 02:24 AM UTC
Thanks for the link, they have some great photos on that site.
Sensei
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Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2004 - 02:33 AM UTC
yup! some excellent photos there, even some nice references for diorama's
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Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2004 - 12:59 PM UTC
WOW great link even though it is in some language i have no idea how to read, great to see some color photos in there! cheers
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Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2004 - 01:01 PM UTC
HEy what about german, umm, i suppose you would call them apc's? ya know, hanomags etc... what ones like that wouldve been used? cheers
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Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2004 - 01:57 PM UTC

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HEy what about german, umm, i suppose you would call them apc's? ya know, hanomags etc... what ones like that wouldve been used? cheers



250's ,demag, 7 ton opel blitz,list again is endless what the German army had at the time was their!
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Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2004 - 02:29 PM UTC
Cheers thanks mate, looks like i will be building a few stalingrad dios in the future!
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Connecticut, United States
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Posted: Monday, January 12, 2004 - 05:01 AM UTC
Hi LWF, as we all know tanks are best fielded in wide open terrain / fields. One AFV that did have advantages in Stalingrad was the StuG. ...... respectively the StuG Ausf B, for infantry fire support.

- ralph
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Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 05:20 PM UTC
Thnaks mate, does tamiya make a kit of that?
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Posted: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 06:16 PM UTC
Another one that is very representative of Stalngrad would also be the SiG 33. That'd be real Stalingrad related, since a whole company of them met their ends there.
lestweforget
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Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 06:39 PM UTC
Cheers mate, but does anyone, tamiya maybe? make kits of the stug and sig?
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California, United States
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Posted: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 01:27 PM UTC
Not up on the German side of Stalingrad, bit remember the seige began in 1942. The more common tank for the Soviets would have been the T-34/ 76 1942 variant with the single hatch on the turret. The T-34/ 76 1943 variant with dual hatches and no commander's cupola would not have come along until after the seige ended.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 01:59 PM UTC
LWF, No Tamiya doesn't have a kit of the STUG B or SIG. DML has beautiful renditions of both kits though. They just did a retool of the SIG 33 over the summer as well. HTH STUG
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Posted: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 09:53 PM UTC
as stugiiif say Dragon do both the stug b and sig and both are easy to pick up also dont forget some of the smaller german armoured cars that tamiya have pushed back out, quite quick to build up, Also Maquette also do a stalingard model T-34 which were built in the city and were driven straight off the production line on to the front line, the paint if any was applied was still wet and due to the urgency of the situation many were fitted without gun-sights they aimed by looking down the gun breech, I'd suggest picking up antony beevors excellent book on stalingard should give you plenty ideas for dios and includes chapters of what also happened out in the steps outside stalingrad
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