Hi,
I'm looking for good quality line drawings for this vehicle based on the M113A3 I believe...
I found a few basic ones and a TM via Google, but not enough to attempt a conversion in 1/35th scale.
Thank you for your help!
Cheers,
Christophe
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OPFOR Surrogate Vehicle : line drawings?
C_JACQUEMONT
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Posted: Sunday, February 01, 2015 - 03:40 AM UTC
Frenchy
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Looks like you've forgotten something in your post....
H.P.
H.P.
RobinNilsson
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Frenchy what sort of main gun is that? Flame thrower or a light gun trying to look like a cannon?
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Looks like you've forgotten something in your post....
H.P.
Cheeky!
Still looking for drawings though...
Cheers,
Christophe
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Posted: Sunday, February 01, 2015 - 05:40 PM UTC
No not that one.
Looking for drawings, not pics.
Cheers,
Christophe
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Frenchy what sort of main gun is that? Flame thrower or a light gun trying to look like a cannon?
Most likely it is a piece of piping (metal pipe, maybe even plastic) pretending to be a main gun of large caliber.
That M113 is actually trying to look like a T-80 .....
/ Robin
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It's a fake gun indeed.
Cheers,
Christophe
Cheers,
Christophe
HeavyArty
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You have to let us know which version of OPFOR VISMOD you are looking to build. There are many different ones built on the M113A3 chassis. If you have an idea of which one, we can help better than all of us guessing.
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Posted: Sunday, February 01, 2015 - 11:26 PM UTC
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You have to let us know which version of OPFOR VISMOD you are looking to build. There are many different ones built on the M113A3 chassis. If you have an idea of which one, we can help better than all of us guessing.
I'm not Christophe, but I know for sure it's the one I've posted a picture of in my previous post
Here's another view for the inquiring minds
(this one appears to be fitted with a M3000 Main Tank Gun Simulator ):
I believe it's called OSTS-MBT (Surrogate Training Systems-Main Battle Tank)....
H.P.
LeoCmdr
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Posted: Sunday, February 01, 2015 - 11:33 PM UTC
That would be a great conversion for Legend Productions!
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Posted: Sunday, February 01, 2015 - 11:39 PM UTC
I rather prefer the Sheridan based ones, and could definitely hook them up with references I took.
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Posted: Monday, February 02, 2015 - 12:13 AM UTC
Great idea.
Cheers,
Christophe
Cheers,
Christophe
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Posted: Monday, February 02, 2015 - 12:16 AM UTC
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You have to let us know which version of OPFOR VISMOD you are looking to build. There are many different ones built on the M113A3 chassis. If you have an idea of which one, we can help better than all of us guessing.
Hi Gino,
I'm not looking for any VISMOD I'm looking for the OPFOR Surrogate Vehicle as per official regulation.
The one Frenchy posted TWICE.
Cheers,
Christophe
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I guess this one is an early variant :
Saber Junction 2012 video :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BkZoLhNy58
Sorry Christophe, no drawing still...
H.P.
Saber Junction 2012 video :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BkZoLhNy58
Sorry Christophe, no drawing still...
H.P.
salt6
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Looks like they were built on M-163 Vulcan hulls.
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Hi Gino,
I'm not looking for any VISMOD I'm looking for the OPFOR Surrogate Vehicle as per official regulation.
The one Frenchy posted TWICE.
Cheers,
Christophe
OK, there are a few OSVs as well on the M113A3 chassis.
This is the one used by the 11 ACR at Ft Irwin, CA, at the National Training Center (NTC) to represent a BMP2.
The OSV is a VISMOD though. VISMOD is any vehicle that is VISually MODified to represent another countries (usually your enemy's) vehicle. All the vehicle that heve been shown here are VISMODS.
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Looks like they were built on M-163 Vulcan hulls.
Why do you say that? They are specially built on M113A3s. I don't think there is anything that says they were prior M163s though.
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Is that car running T-150F track in your posts Frenchy????
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Is that car running T-150F track in your posts Frenchy????
I guess so Jason
http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2003/08-August/16-Aug-2003/FBO-00402070.htm
H.P.
salt6
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Posted: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 - 10:35 PM UTC
In the video the turret is functional and a M163 would best be suited to do that. A look at the top rear deck or inside the rear ramp A M901 would also be a possibility.
Although I know the ones at the NTC were rebuilt with the turret mods.
Of course I could be totally wrong.
Although I know the ones at the NTC were rebuilt with the turret mods.
Of course I could be totally wrong.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 - 07:41 AM UTC
Thank you all for your comments, and a big special "merci" for Frenchy.
I got the idea of modelling this vehicle while browsing this book.
It says the designation is OSTS-MBT and that it is based on M901 chassis.
I just found out the OSTS MBT designation by reading this German book and this brings up new things in Internet searches.
Cheers,
Christophe
I got the idea of modelling this vehicle while browsing this book.
It says the designation is OSTS-MBT and that it is based on M901 chassis.
I just found out the OSTS MBT designation by reading this German book and this brings up new things in Internet searches.
Cheers,
Christophe
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Posted: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 - 07:55 AM UTC
Found out there is a short article in the 1/2006 issue of Militärfahrzeug, which I happen to own.
Cheers,
Christophe
Cheers,
Christophe
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Posted: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 - 08:42 AM UTC
For kicks, here's the Soviet version of OPFOR http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/warfare-modern-age/63533-soviet-army-vismod-opfor-id-them-all.html
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I thought I read the M901 were converted by BAe Systems. The "T-80" OSTS MBT and the "BMP-2" OSTS IFV share the same conical turret with only different external fittings the interior of the turret is similar to a Bradley. Here in Germany we have only the T-80 and the BMP-1 (M113 A3 with a MILES laser gun attached) OSTS at JMRC Hohenfels. By the way the gunfire simulator is called the Main Gun Simulator System MGSS. I still look for one or two for my planned EAS builds.
A VISMOD conversion on the M551 is need in 1/35 scale but need a good M551 first.
H.-H.
A VISMOD conversion on the M551 is need in 1/35 scale but need a good M551 first.
H.-H.
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Thank you Hans-Hermann for the info.
Cheers,
Christophe
Cheers,
Christophe
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