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Question on Tamiya flat base
wildbill426
Joined: December 08, 2006
KitMaker: 403 posts
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Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 - 09:09 PM UTC
I normally use Testors clear flat, which is great but has just a bit of a satin effect. I would like to get something real flat to airbrush some resin tarps. I know you can't use XF21 flat base straight or it will silver, but I'm thinking about using a combo of flat base and clear gloss; wondering if a 50/50 mix of this thinned might do the trick. Anybody ever try this; if so any comments or recomendations on mix percentages?
Sheridan551
Joined: December 29, 2014
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Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 - 09:16 PM UTC
I do this. Depending on the level of finish, I'll usually mix 1 part flat base to 1-3 parts clear gloss and then thin it for airbrushing. All I can say it try it on a test sheet over a gloss finish or a "paint hulk" and see how it lays. It doesn't take much flat base to suppress the gloss.
Matt
Matt
Cookiescool2
Joined: May 09, 2014
KitMaker: 273 posts
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Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 - 09:17 PM UTC
I have experimented some with the flat base. I found that a 50/50 mix is a bit too much, and usually a 75/25 mix of gloss to flat base seemed to work for me. You have to be careful with this stuff, just experiment with what mix really works for you. Just make sure to not put too much, with the flat base, less is better.
SgtRam
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Joined: March 06, 2011
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Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 - 09:23 PM UTC
For a "dead flat" finish, I find that the Model Masters Flat Clear Acryl go on FLAT, I use via Airbrush and love it. It is all I use.
AJLaFleche
Joined: May 05, 2002
KitMaker: 8,074 posts
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Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 - 11:02 PM UTC
Hey, Bill. testors' Dullcoat. All I ever use over enamels, acrylics and oils. AIrbrush, not rattle can, however.
BBD468
Joined: March 08, 2010
KitMaker: 2,465 posts
Armorama: 2,383 posts
Posted: Thursday, February 26, 2015 - 06:55 AM UTC
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Hey, Bill. testors' Dullcoat. All I ever use over enamels, acrylics and oils. AIrbrush, not rattle can, however.
I agree! I used Tamiya Flat base mixed with Gloss for 4-5 years and recently switched to Testors Dullcote and WOW.....I Love that stuff! I thin it about 60/40 Thinner/ paint with Lacquer thinner and ive never once had it try to frost on me. Haven't touched the Tamiya Flat since.
Gary
nzgunnie
Joined: October 15, 2004
KitMaker: 371 posts
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Posted: Friday, February 27, 2015 - 12:41 PM UTC
If you want to stick to a Tamiya product, just get XF86, their flat varnish.
sdk10159
Joined: December 08, 2005
KitMaker: 556 posts
Armorama: 433 posts
Posted: Friday, February 27, 2015 - 01:21 PM UTC
For a really dead flat finish, I use a 50/50 mix of MM Acryl flat clear and 91% alcohol with a drop of Tamiya Flat base added to it.
SdAufKla
Joined: May 07, 2010
KitMaker: 2,238 posts
Armorama: 2,158 posts
Posted: Friday, February 27, 2015 - 11:35 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextHey, Bill. testors' Dullcoat. All I ever use over enamels, acrylics and oils. AIrbrush, not rattle can, however.
I agree! I used Tamiya Flat base mixed with Gloss for 4-5 years and recently switched to Testors Dullcote and WOW.....I Love that stuff! I thin it about 60/40 Thinner/ paint with Lacquer thinner and ive never once had it try to frost on me. Haven't touched the Tamiya Flat since.
Gary
+1 Testor's Dullcoat
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