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Armor/AFV: Axis - WWII
Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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Wirbelvind - Comments please
Major_Goose
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Kikladhes, Greece / Ελλάδα
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Posted: Monday, January 12, 2004 - 08:14 PM UTC
Hello there. Cause i dont have a good day if i dont get your comments on my work please do so !! the best comment gets a dozen of Thanks



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Posted: Monday, January 12, 2004 - 08:33 PM UTC
Looked very beaten and nicely weathered. I have 2 things I like to make an observation:

1. The whole vehicle is very weathered, white wash, rust and all, however, the tracks seems to be a tad clean...

2. The antenna, would that interfer with the gun operation?

they are nitpicks, overall, rather nice.
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Kikladhes, Greece / Ελλάδα
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Posted: Monday, January 12, 2004 - 08:38 PM UTC
yep the antenna had an accident during the photo shooting but will be fixed. The tracks and lower hull was left almost untouched dur to blending it with the base of a dio i plan to do for it . :-)
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Kikladhes, Greece / Ελλάδα
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Posted: Monday, January 12, 2004 - 08:39 PM UTC
sorry to forget as always many more pictures and close ups in the gallery
APbullet
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Utrecht, Netherlands
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Posted: Monday, January 12, 2004 - 08:40 PM UTC
Nice building there, a few things though:

1. try to blend in the weathering on top of the turret more with the vehicle with some additional washes.

2. indeed the tracks look a little clean compared to the rest of the vehicle, make some mud and do a little overspray of tamiya xf-59.

3.and yes the antenna is way to long and if this vehicle has to be ready to fire it is in the turrets way. Also this fitting is modern style, the most German ww2 where just straight.

4. nice whitewash, don't change that one.

Hope this helps
Envar
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Uusimaa, Finland
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Posted: Monday, January 12, 2004 - 11:11 PM UTC
Sir Goose,

I fully agree woth the previous comments.
I just like to add something, though.
The rivets and recesses:
This is exactly what happens with a whitewash, the white is more visible in areas you canīt rub. So Iīd add very dark brown wash around the rivets and recesses. After that you only need some drybrushing with white to bring those rivets up again. This is what I just did with my winterwashed BT-7.

I found an even easier way of doing this. If you know from the beginning that you are going to make a whitewash camo, prime your vehicle matt black. Then apply the normal camo pattern. Then comes the white.
Now when you wish to weather the vehicle, you can control the white/dark balance simply by rubbing the surface harder. If you want dark panel lines, weld seams, deep scratches, just apply some thinner and rub with a cocktail stick. You can also go around rivets with the stick. No need for dark washes and the principle will be the same as the natural wear of the vehicle. The more you scratch, the darker it gets!

Good job on the Wirbelwind!



Toni
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Posted: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 02:07 AM UTC
Two thoughts not mentioned: I'm not sure the interior surfaces of the turret and the gun barrels would have been whitewashed, but I can't be sure.
Second, I'd add some sooty black to the intertior of the exhaust pipe and around the top outer edge.
tazz
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New York, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 06:04 AM UTC
u did a nice job over all weathering is done nice,
but the tracks and road wheels need a little wash and dry brushing.
you could use some pastles on the road wheels
but keep up the good job
Part-timer
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Posted: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 07:06 AM UTC
Quite good. I agree with Al's assessment that the exhaust needs a little soot. It also looks a little wet/glossy to me; I'd hit it with some flat laquer and/or some pastel dust to knock the sheen back.
Major_Goose
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Kikladhes, Greece / Ελλάδα
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Posted: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 05:38 PM UTC
Thanks for all your commenting on my effort guys . Is so good to have people checking your work . Your comments have been noted down and will take effect soon on the Wirbel.
AJ about the whitewashing i ve seen in BBC many time ago a documentary from winter battle and seen vehicles like that with open style turrets whitewashed also inside, and i thought they did this so they dont make a difference from aerial views. As for the gun barrels i am not sure also. The soot will take place on the exaust as it should and the pastels will take the glossy look out . Thanks again everyone
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