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Did any of the T-34-76 1941 model use 1940

phantom8747

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Posted: Sunday, March 08, 2015 - 06:35 PM UTC
style gun mantlets?

Viper_msk

Joined: February 14, 2015
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Posted: Monday, March 09, 2015 - 12:25 AM UTC
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style gun mantlets?
If you mean L-11's mantlet, then most likely no - this gun was decommissioned in February-March of 1941 and replaced with F-34.
Thus, if you build a tank manufactured before March 1941, then L-11 is a valid option. If a later tank, then no.

phantom8747

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Posted: Monday, March 09, 2015 - 05:35 PM UTC
Thanks I am sure they must have used a few 1940 L11 mantlets in January and February 1942.

dsfraser

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Posted: Monday, March 09, 2015 - 06:37 PM UTC
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Thanks I am sure they must have used a few 1940 L11 mantlets in January and February 1942.
They didn't. The F-34 was standard in T-34s produced from April 1941. Few, if any, T-34s with the L-11 gun survived Barbarossa.
Regards
Scott Fraser

vettejack

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Posted: Monday, March 09, 2015 - 07:45 PM UTC
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Quoted TextThanks I am sure they must have used a few 1940 L11 mantlets in January and February 1942.
They didn't. The F-34 was standard in T-34s produced from April 1941. Few, if any, T-34s with the L-11 gun survived Barbarossa.
Regards
Scott Fraser
I agree...it is with high probability that T-34's, with the L-11 gun, that survived Bararossa, probably served in higher numbers in German units due to substantial numbers being captured early on (plenty of photo evidence of German marking on T-34/L-11's, but no numbers to back up a total captured/used). How many L-11's survived for the Soviets to keep using is anybody's guess. Until T-34's with the F-34 gun showed up in substantial numbers the Germans made due with the L-11 gunned T-34 because it was the only game in town until attrition became the norm then newly captured T-34's with the F-34 gun would appear and fill the billets of captured weaponry within the German Army. By mid '42, any L-11's that survived were probably relegated to lessor rear echelons to battle partisans or re-gunned with a German calibre. Same with the Soviets...probably sending any surviving L-11's to the rear never to be seen again or relegated to other units to protect cites of the Motherland. There is also plenty of evidence on both sides that re-engineering/reverse engineering of weaponry to refit captured tanks was ongoing, no matter how old the chassis the new weapon was mounted to.
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