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Wash that dries like sand accumulation?
cabasner
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Posted: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 - 08:38 AM UTC
Hi everyone,

I just saw a product on the net that purports to go on like a pin wash, but when dry, looks like sand accumulation in corners and crevices. I know I just saw this within the last few days, but darned if I can recall where I saw it or who makes it. I'm talking about something that you can wash into the corners of road wheels, for instance, and when dry, it looks like sand having accumulated in the corners/creases. Am I crazy? Does such a product exist? Please help!
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Posted: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 - 08:59 AM UTC
Hi Curt,

No doubt the product is out there but I demonstrated a way to make the effect with common model paint:

Model Paint Washes

Pls see the KV-1 hull at the bottom. Previews:



Unfortunately, those i***ts at Testors discontinued the superb Polly Scale line for their own muddel messter brand. Yeah, I did prefer P.S. over M.M. Still do.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 - 10:15 AM UTC
Maybe are this new dust/sand deposits from AK:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioRE_US_g88
MichaelD413
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Posted: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 - 01:19 PM UTC
Yeah...Dust and Dirt Deposits by AK...personally I love the product and they also have a rust version with 3 different rust tones
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Posted: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 - 06:11 PM UTC
You can obtain some pretty nice effects like this by over--thinning your Tamiya acryls to create a wash and pooling that into cracks and corners (or even on flats) - you may have to go over it a couple times with drying between coats, and applying this over some Future will way reduce tendencies to give "tidal marks". But you can also address those with a little clean water to wash the stuff into your desired locations.

Another route I've had some success with is to make a "wash" of pigments with water and apply that - the outcome will be a dusted / sandy surface and will be pretty fragile, but a little more stable than actually applying free chalk dust to get real fill-depositions (my final steps to dirtying builds...).

Just some suggestions.

Bob
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Posted: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 - 06:48 PM UTC
I have used the AK dust effects and like it a lot.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 - 07:03 PM UTC
I have been using diluted Tamiya Buff for dust for years now. Thin it down with water and applied it in layers. You can add more paint if needed to the wash. I even wet the surface of the model and applied the paint directly from the jar. Then used a wet brush to move it around or remove some.

Paul.
JPTRR
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Posted: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 - 07:59 PM UTC
Curt,

lots of excellent input here! You can't go wrong with any of them.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 - 09:05 PM UTC

Quoted Text

I have used the AK dust effects and like it a lot.




Agree. Probably, their best product.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 - 10:46 PM UTC
i just use light pigments & a light colored wash...put your pigments on..wet with your wash..tap out the excess..let it dry.
Vallejo pigments & washes.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 - 10:53 PM UTC
Mr Zaloga's mix of Liquin, thinners and appropriate coloured paint (stone/grey/sand etc.) also works very well in my own experience.
cabasner
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Posted: Friday, March 20, 2015 - 02:38 AM UTC
Hey guys! Thanks for the many replies. Turns out that it was the AK Dust & Dirt Deposits that I was looking for. I went to my LHS and they had 3 versions of it! Sand Yellow, Light Dust and Brown Earth. Being the goof that I am, I got all 3. Can't wait to try them out! Thanks again, all.
Tojo72
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Posted: Friday, March 20, 2015 - 03:07 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Hey guys! Thanks for the many replies. Turns out that it was the AK Dust & Dirt Deposits that I was looking for. I went to my LHS and they had 3 versions of it! Sand Yellow, Light Dust and Brown Earth. Being the goof that I am, I got all 3. Can't wait to try them out! Thanks again, all.



Good stuff curt,I just mop it on and then clean up the excess with a brush and thinner till you get what you like.You can also put it sparingly ito areas of need,and clean off the excess.
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Posted: Monday, April 06, 2015 - 02:32 PM UTC
guys, it is simple, just take enamel, thin it quite heavy, but not fully transparent and add pigment powder there. when it will dry it will look as accumulation of desired colour. easy and you don't need to buy special product for it
Anmoga
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Posted: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 - 03:43 PM UTC
HI guys,

Can someone explain me the difference between AK Dust Deposits
and AK dust effects?

Thanks in advance,
Angel
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Posted: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 - 04:09 PM UTC
Try these. True Earth has Dusty Road and Dusty Desert that works well, I have used it and like the result.

http://www.true-earth.com/contents/en-uk/p446.html
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Posted: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 - 04:18 PM UTC
Hi,

I can confirm the True Earth stuff is great.
... using the the dusty road myself for a long time, it's easy to use.

Very little dust if you use it once, just apply additional layers to accumulate the dust at places you need it.

Their other stuff for bleaching and de-saturating it great, too...

Cheers
Thomas
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Posted: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 - 05:15 PM UTC

Quoted Text

HI guys,

Can someone explain me the difference between AK Dust Deposits
and AK dust effects?

Thanks in advance,
Angel



Dust effects - thin enamel
Dust deposits - thin enamel + concentrated pigment

So you can take Dust effects and mix with pigment of interest to get dust deposit.
Anmoga
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Posted: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 - 06:47 PM UTC
Thanks Roman.

Best regards,
Angel
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Posted: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 - 08:08 AM UTC
I used the light dust on the wheels of my M1A1 AIM. I had already weathered'/dirtied up the wheels pretty heavily, so this was just an additional layer of 'gunk'. I went 'all out', didn't try for subtlety, and put a heavy run of the liquid in the creases of the wheels. When the product dried, it looked pretty darn good. This was on sand colored wheels. My next M1A1 is going to be NATO camo, and the wheels are dark green. I'm guessing the effect on those will be really pronounced and impressive!
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