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Posted: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 09:12 PM UTC
IBG Models has just announced two new kits in 1/35 styrene, the C15 and the C15A light reconnaissance vehicles. Both of these are highly detailed injection mold kits with interior and undercarriage (transmission) included! Check out the pictures and the rest of the story here!
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Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 09:49 PM UTC
Hmmm...so IBG will be competing with Mirror Models! It will be interesting to see comparison reviews of the two Otters. Maybe IBG will milk the CMP chassis for all body variations.
Wojewodztwo Pomorskie, Poland
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Posted: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 10:17 PM UTC
The comparision will be interesting indeed, IBG gests better with every release I think, but so are Mirror models. For now I only wonder if tires that IBG portrays are suitable for this vehicle? Shouldn't the tires look as in their artworks?
Chers,
Greg
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SgtRam
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Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 10:38 PM UTC
IBG is including photo-etched and full interior, but what I see missing is all of the detail in the frame and body that is included in the Mirror Models kit. The IBG kit should be easier to put together, but it will not be anywhere near the detail that is included in the Mirror Models kit.
Iowa, United States
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Posted: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 10:39 PM UTC
at least the IBG one has a radio and Bren gun included. I wish I'd held off for this one and not bought the Mirror one
My short term memory is getting really bad....and so is my short term memory.
CMOT
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Posted: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 10:41 PM UTC
Grzegorz: The tyres should be fine as they are a standard British pattern.
Wojewodztwo Pomorskie, Poland
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Posted: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 10:53 PM UTC
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Grzegorz: The tyres should be fine as they are a standard British pattern.
Are you sure? I'm asking about the tires in prototype photos (renderings?) as they look like american pattern with straight tread vs. British pattern with slanted 'chevron' tread as in the box artwork ?
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CMOT
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Posted: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 11:09 PM UTC
These look like the tyres that are on our 25pdr field guns and are run flat tyres with a very thick side wall. From memory they are a rough terrain pattern, but don't hold me to that. I should add they are also on our gun tractors.
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SgtRam
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Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 11:35 PM UTC
If they IBG kit is coming with the wrong tires, Mirror Models has the correct Firestone and Dunlop tires available seperately.
I am wondering if I can mate the Mirror Models frame with the IBG body? From the images the Mirror Model frame is much better.
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Posted: Thursday, March 26, 2015 - 02:18 AM UTC
The tyre pattern looks wrong to me as well. More like the US bar tread then the British chevron pattern.
SgtRam
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Posted: Thursday, March 26, 2015 - 02:30 AM UTC
Quoted Text
The tyre pattern looks wrong to me as well. More like the US bar tread then the British chevron pattern.
The tires on the test build images are definately wrong, but there are several aftermarket ones out there. And as I most of the time replace plastic kit offerings with resin, not a big deal. Most of the time plastic don't offer the same detail.
CMOT
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Posted: Thursday, March 26, 2015 - 03:21 AM UTC
The tread pattern on the box top does look wrong, but looking at the images of the model they appear to match 3 of 4 samples shown here.
17pdr
Alternate pattern on a 25pdr
Mk 2 Morris quad early
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California, United States
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Posted: Thursday, March 26, 2015 - 04:05 AM UTC
The tires on the Otter box look close to the tire in the photos on Service Publication's The Factory Photos CD
The tires on the C15TA are the pattern in the Factory Photos except that the chevrons are pointed in the opposite direction. Which would be due to how they are mounted on the wheels.
Wojewodztwo Pomorskie, Poland
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Posted: Thursday, March 26, 2015 - 02:23 PM UTC
Quoted Text
The tread pattern on the box top does look wrong, but looking at the images of the model they appear to match 3 of 4 samples shown here.
17pdr
Alternate pattern on a 25pdr
Mk 2 Morris quad early
5.5 inch gun
Darren, these are restored museum pieces and can hardly serve as reference in regards to tires that are one of the least lasting parts of a gun or an AFV.
Or you could say htese tires are fine for the otter also:
Source material would be needed here, so period photos or manuals.
Greg
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Clare, Ireland
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Posted: Thursday, March 26, 2015 - 04:22 PM UTC
Here are links to walkarounds, so you can see and compare details of these kits with reality or other kits
Otter C15TA These wheels seem to be also wrong in size, while C15TA served on large 10,5x16 tyres, Otter only on small 9x16 tyres. Box covers show common tyre patterns used by GM and in service, but non of my hundreds period reference pictures show pattern used on IBG kits.
If any good kit builder here familiar with these subjects wants to go for comparison build review, I will be glad to send free Mirror kit samples for this matter
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Posted: Thursday, March 26, 2015 - 08:54 PM UTC
And so the bashing begins!
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Posted: Thursday, March 26, 2015 - 09:08 PM UTC
Quoted Text
IBG Models has just announced two new kits in 1/35 styrene, the C15 and the C15A light reconnaissance vehicles. Both of these are highly detailed injection mold kits with interior and undercarriage (transmission) included! Check out the pictures and the rest of the story here!
Read the Full News Story
If you have comments or questions please post them here.
Thanks!
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Hey, wasn't MIRROR going to do a Morris Commercial at one time? If not, then THAT'S one soft-skin I'd vote for!
ColinEdm
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Posted: Friday, March 27, 2015 - 01:30 AM UTC
Nice interior detail compared to the Mirror version, would have saved me a lot of time, ah well, it was a learning experience!
The voices are back.....excellent....
California, United States
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Posted: Friday, March 27, 2015 - 08:41 AM UTC
The photos in the posts appear to be recent and show museum and restored vehicles.
The tires on the box art look like the tires in the photos on the Service Publications CD. The photos on the CD were taken at the factory when the vehicles were new.
SgtRam
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Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Friday, March 27, 2015 - 06:50 PM UTC
IBG has released images of the sprues on Facebook, and while not looking too bad, the tires are incorrect, the shape of the seats look to be off a little, I was unable to locate an instrument panel, the engine does not look right to me, and the frame detail looks no where near the detail on the Mirror Models kit.
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Posted: Friday, March 27, 2015 - 07:38 PM UTC
California, United States
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Posted: Sunday, March 29, 2015 - 12:32 PM UTC
Since the vehicles were designed and built in Canada they would have Canadian or maybe even US manufactured tires. Therefore US pattern instead of British pattern tires could have been installed at the factory.
Arizona, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 - 03:45 AM UTC
From another site, a review of the Otter armored car:
http://inscale.org/public/?p=11966Arizona, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 - 03:51 AM UTC
For anyone interested in postwar vehicles, I found an interesting Otter, which took part in the Israeli War of Independence/al Nakba. The Star of David with a dagger thrust through it was the insigne of the Arab Army of Salvation, sometimes called Kaukji's Irregulars, a multinational force that operated in the Galilee.
