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Panda M-ATV crow 2
hliu24
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Posted: Monday, March 30, 2015 - 01:33 AM UTC
Just received it, opened the box and what a surprised!
This set is from ebay and I have a second set that is coming from Sprue brothers, fingers crossed.

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Posted: Monday, March 30, 2015 - 02:30 AM UTC
Too early removed from a mould? Sh...t happens Is there any chance to make a complaint or return it as a damaged product?
hliu24
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Posted: Monday, March 30, 2015 - 03:01 AM UTC

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Too early removed from a mould? Sh...t happens Is there any chance to make a complaint or return it as a damaged product?



Thank you Kuba

The second set should be here in a few days, let's see then.

jay
Hisham
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Posted: Monday, March 30, 2015 - 04:24 AM UTC
What do you mean when you say "set"? Is this some conversion set.. or is this their recent kit?

What's sad is that their kits are "basically" very nice, but they have some serious problem with the molding process.. and producing parts that fit

Hisham
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Posted: Monday, March 30, 2015 - 04:07 PM UTC
Had the same issue with mine!I was lucky enough that I called my hobby store where I bought it and he swapped it from another kit
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Monday, March 30, 2015 - 05:17 PM UTC

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Just received it, opened the box and what a surprised!
This set is from ebay and I have a second set that is coming from Sprue brothers, fingers crossed.

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GEE, THAT'S PRETTY DISGUSTING!!! How does this kind of thing happen in this day and age? Doesn't PANDA have a Quality Control Department?
hliu24
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Posted: Monday, March 30, 2015 - 09:32 PM UTC

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What do you mean when you say "set"? Is this some conversion set.. or is this their recent kit?

What's sad is that their kits are "basically" very nice, but they have some serious problem with the molding process.. and producing parts that fit

Hisham



Hi, Hisham

Both kits are the newest from Panda, Also, I can see panda updated their instructions and replaced a lot of bad parts from their original M-ATV, but you don't know until you start building it.

jay
hliu24
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Posted: Monday, March 30, 2015 - 09:36 PM UTC
GEE, THAT'S PRETTY DISGUSTING!!! How does this kind of thing happen in this day and age? Doesn't PANDA have a Quality Control Department? [/quote]

I think the customers are the Panda quality control department

The rest of the parts look very nice though.

Jay
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Posted: Monday, March 30, 2015 - 09:40 PM UTC

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Had the same issue with mine!I was lucky enough that I called my hobby store where I bought it and he swapped it from another kit



Hi, Edward

Have you stared it yet?

Thanks Jay
jekrott
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Posted: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 - 04:58 AM UTC
No not yet,i'm still working on my MENG cougar that I'm changing the suspension on.I would post pictures but I'm so bad and don't fully understand how to do it
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Friday, April 03, 2015 - 04:19 AM UTC

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GEE, THAT'S PRETTY DISGUSTING!!! How does this kind of thing happen in this day and age? Doesn't PANDA have a Quality Control Department?



I think the customers are the Panda quality control department

The rest of the parts look very nice though.

Jay[/quote]

That's GOOD, Jay!
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Friday, April 03, 2015 - 04:21 AM UTC

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No not yet,i'm still working on my MENG cougar that I'm changing the suspension on.I would post pictures but I'm so bad and don't fully understand how to do it



Don't feel alone, Ed! I must be the last guy on earth who doesn't have a digital camera with a USB port, yet... Otherwise, I'd have posted my work on this site long ago...
hliu24
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Posted: Monday, April 06, 2015 - 09:54 PM UTC

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No not yet,i'm still working on my MENG cougar that I'm changing the suspension on.I would post pictures but I'm so bad and don't fully understand how to do it



Don't feel alone, Ed! I must be the last guy on earth who doesn't have a digital camera with a USB port, yet... Otherwise, I'd have posted my work on this site long ago...



All you need is a smart phone with camera and data plan

Jay
hliu24
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Posted: Monday, April 06, 2015 - 10:00 PM UTC
Second new kit came.

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Posted: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 - 02:59 AM UTC
The tales of Panda suspensions were enough to put me off as i can do without that sort of challange but the quality of those parts reafirms my desire not to get anything by them. Unbelievable!
phantom8747
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Posted: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 - 06:28 PM UTC
Local hobby shop has them after seeing these pics glad I passed.
hliu24
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Posted: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 - 12:24 AM UTC
I do recommend if you buy it should buy it at the local store and open the box, check the parts right away.

The Chassis is very complicated, and I am not a mechanic, might have to wait for Robert's walk around.




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Posted: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 - 03:19 PM UTC
Hi Jay,

Too bad to see such poor quality right out of the box!

I've built a few of these, problems and all, when built, I like the end result, but you will need some patience and creativity to get it done.

For what it's worth, when you get going on the suspension, you might keep your knife, file, and drill handy. Many of the slots and holes intended for receiving parts aren't molded/formed (?) all that well, and you'll need to clean them up in order for them to go together correctly.

Something else, when you look at the instructions, they show shock absorber installation almost last in the assembly. I have found it's a lot easier to add the shock to the inside mounting bracket early on, and then, it will work as a guide for aligning the other pieces, like the lower control arm, springs etc, which in turn, guide the upper arm's location.

Another point, make sure the inner/upper shock mount is installed completely flush with the bracket. If it's not flush, the vehicle will not sit flat when you're done with it...ask me how I know! (haha)

Ok - good luck! I'll keep watching and will probably pick up a tip or two from your build! for whatever reason, I plan to build a few more of them!

Cheers
Nick


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Posted: Friday, April 10, 2015 - 12:05 AM UTC
Thank you so much, Nick! will be very careful with the suspension.

Started it. So far, The fit is good except part A23.

M-atv Ed

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Posted: Friday, April 10, 2015 - 11:34 AM UTC
Jay- good luck!
I already dealt with the Panda model. You can watch the effect on Humvee Models. I believe that you will make the well done model from it.
hliu24
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Posted: Saturday, April 11, 2015 - 08:15 PM UTC
Thanks man!

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hliu24
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Posted: Sunday, April 12, 2015 - 11:13 PM UTC
Dry Fit.

This is the updated version of the Original Panda M-ATV, They fixed the instructions, updated some parts, but to put it together, you still need to do some sanding and drilling.

Thanks to Nick for the tips.


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MakiWawa
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Posted: Monday, April 13, 2015 - 10:22 AM UTC
I'm waiting for this moment
http://humvee-models.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1317
Good luck!
hliu24
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Posted: Monday, April 13, 2015 - 09:02 PM UTC

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I'm waiting for this moment
http://humvee-models.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1317
Good luck!



Makinen, Good job!



Jay

DEF Wheels, They are really good.

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hliu24
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Posted: Monday, April 13, 2015 - 09:06 PM UTC
Phew! Spent 3 nights on the suspension, not easy at all.

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