I have Tamiya's Excellent JS-2 which is based on a Chelyabinsk Kirov factory version and has a cast 'rounded' nose. I'm building a slightly different version which uses a flat nose plate but have been unable to locate any specific info about this particular model.
Here's the ChKZ type -
This is the version I'm building -
You can see how the bottom image has a squared off nose compared to the cast type. Any ideas?
Gary
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Posted: Monday, March 30, 2015 - 11:51 AM UTC
You could try using a piece of "L" shaped styrene for the infrastructure and putty sanded smooth. Also note the difference of the mud flaps.
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Posted: Monday, March 30, 2015 - 12:06 PM UTC
Isn't that the hull built by UZTM? It was different to the Chelyabinsk type.
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Posted: Monday, March 30, 2015 - 01:22 PM UTC
Hi Matt
Building it is no issue - I'm actually about 99% done on that part. This particular tank has different mudflaps to what I need - the pic I showed was just as an example.
Robert
I'm guessing it's most probably a different factory. There are also some with interlocking front plates too. Just info on which is which seems impossible to find on the net?
Gary
Building it is no issue - I'm actually about 99% done on that part. This particular tank has different mudflaps to what I need - the pic I showed was just as an example.
Robert
I'm guessing it's most probably a different factory. There are also some with interlocking front plates too. Just info on which is which seems impossible to find on the net?
Gary
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Posted: Monday, March 30, 2015 - 01:53 PM UTC
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This particular tank has different mudflaps to what I need - the pic I showed was just as an example.
Robert
I'm guessing it's most probably a different factory. There are also some with interlocking front plates too. Just info on which is which seems impossible to find on the net?
Gary
I'm not entirely sure but they may be a post-war addition or just something the museum chucked on as they did not have the right ones?
Paul
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Posted: Monday, March 30, 2015 - 02:54 PM UTC
Hey there Gary
The nose you are going to reproduce is really an UZTM welded type adopted for mass production in summer of 1944 (cast nose of Tamiya kit is from the same period).
Here is a drawing with all the nose types (top left corner):
http://postimg.org/image/nrtpd85xn/
And here is a fundamental research of a very talented Russian modeller:
http://tigerscorner.ru/gallery/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=73%3A-1-2-&catid=34%3A2010-12-02-12-49-34&Itemid=53&showall=1
(see closer to the bottom of the page just before the road wheel types)
HTH, Paul
The nose you are going to reproduce is really an UZTM welded type adopted for mass production in summer of 1944 (cast nose of Tamiya kit is from the same period).
Here is a drawing with all the nose types (top left corner):
http://postimg.org/image/nrtpd85xn/
And here is a fundamental research of a very talented Russian modeller:
http://tigerscorner.ru/gallery/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=73%3A-1-2-&catid=34%3A2010-12-02-12-49-34&Itemid=53&showall=1
(see closer to the bottom of the page just before the road wheel types)
HTH, Paul
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Posted: Monday, March 30, 2015 - 05:13 PM UTC
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Hey there Gary
The nose you are going to reproduce is really an UZTM welded type adopted for mass production in summer of 1944 (cast nose of Tamiya kit is from the same period).
Here is a drawing with all the nose types (top left corner):
http://postimg.org/image/nrtpd85xn/
And here is a fundamental research of a very talented Russian modeller:
http://tigerscorner.ru/gallery/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=73%3A-1-2-&catid=34%3A2010-12-02-12-49-34&Itemid=53&showall=1
(see closer to the bottom of the page just before the road wheel types)
HTH, Paul
Hello, Paul & all others who are interested- Have you by any chance heard anything about X-ACT's 1/35 T-84 "OPLOT" Ukrainian Tank status? Will we see it soon? THANKS VERY MUCH for posting the VERY DETAILED UZTM IS-2 photos! I think it is remarkable how much some of these tanks differ in their overall casting finishes and various details!
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Posted: Monday, March 30, 2015 - 10:20 PM UTC
Gentlemen. You are absolute stars - excellent info. Thank you.
Andy - in this instance I will turn a blind eye to that difference but very useful to know for the future.
Gary
Andy - in this instance I will turn a blind eye to that difference but very useful to know for the future.
Gary
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Posted: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 - 03:35 PM UTC
You are welcome Gary! Do not hesitate to ask if there are any other questions
Dennis, TBH, I've got no idea! From what I can see, they sell their current kits well (and it is well-deserved by any standards) hence, there must be enough money to invest into the development of new projects, including Oplot. So far I've seen nothing more than a single styrene part and 3-D renders. Let's wait...
Dennis, TBH, I've got no idea! From what I can see, they sell their current kits well (and it is well-deserved by any standards) hence, there must be enough money to invest into the development of new projects, including Oplot. So far I've seen nothing more than a single styrene part and 3-D renders. Let's wait...
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Posted: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 - 06:35 PM UTC
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You are welcome Gary! Do not hesitate to ask if there are any other questions
Dennis, TBH, I've got no idea! From what I can see, they sell their current kits well (and it is well-deserved by any standards) hence, there must be enough money to invest into the development of new projects, including Oplot. So far I've seen nothing more than a single styrene part and 3-D renders. Let's wait...
Hi, Paul! I saw (I don't remember where), that the Ukrainian T-84 "OPLOT" is supposed to be released in September- I just thought you may have had more information... How is the quality of X-ACT kits? I've never bought one, so I'm curious... Thanks...
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Posted: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 - 04:38 PM UTC
Hello Dennis!
I guess there is no unpleasant surprises concerning styrene quality itself, the same goes to package sturdiness/box protective properties/box art attractiveness and so forth...
Again, I've got no idea as to how good the fit is, but I do know their kits are pretty complicated, with greater parts count and, in many respects, are more detailed than the ones of the same subject from other manufacturer(s)
Here is just a few examples of our fellow modellers' opinions on what to expect:
1)Tiger
http://models.primeportal.net/?p=4172
http://www.militarymodelling.com/news/article/a-modern-russian-tigr-in-1-35/19147
http://kitmaniac.com/site/?p=3386
http://scalemodels.ru/articles/7737-obzor-Xast-ssale-models-1-35-gaz-tigr.html
2) T-80
http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/xact/xs35001.html
http://www.themodellingnews.com/2013/08/review-and-building-guide-xact-scale.html
I believe you've seen some of these before, but still...
HTH, Paul
I guess there is no unpleasant surprises concerning styrene quality itself, the same goes to package sturdiness/box protective properties/box art attractiveness and so forth...
Again, I've got no idea as to how good the fit is, but I do know their kits are pretty complicated, with greater parts count and, in many respects, are more detailed than the ones of the same subject from other manufacturer(s)
Here is just a few examples of our fellow modellers' opinions on what to expect:
1)Tiger
http://models.primeportal.net/?p=4172
http://www.militarymodelling.com/news/article/a-modern-russian-tigr-in-1-35/19147
http://kitmaniac.com/site/?p=3386
http://scalemodels.ru/articles/7737-obzor-Xast-ssale-models-1-35-gaz-tigr.html
2) T-80
http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/xact/xs35001.html
http://www.themodellingnews.com/2013/08/review-and-building-guide-xact-scale.html
I believe you've seen some of these before, but still...
HTH, Paul
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Posted: Friday, April 03, 2015 - 04:25 AM UTC
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Hello Dennis!
I guess there is no unpleasant surprises concerning styrene quality itself, the same goes to package sturdiness/box protective properties/box art attractiveness and so forth...
Again, I've got no idea as to how good the fit is, but I do know their kits are pretty complicated, with greater parts count and, in many respects, are more detailed than the ones of the same subject from other manufacturer(s)
Here is just a few examples of our fellow modellers' opinions on what to expect:
1)Tiger
http://models.primeportal.net/?p=4172
http://www.militarymodelling.com/news/article/a-modern-russian-tigr-in-1-35/19147
http://kitmaniac.com/site/?p=3386
http://scalemodels.ru/articles/7737-obzor-Xast-ssale-models-1-35-gaz-tigr.html
2) T-80
http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/xact/xs35001.html
http://www.themodellingnews.com/2013/08/review-and-building-guide-xact-scale.html
I believe you've seen some of these before, but still...
HTH, Paul
THANKS, PAUL!
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Posted: Friday, April 03, 2015 - 04:33 AM UTC
Hi, Jacques! BOY, that is SOME REVIEW! Your advice Re: Fenders, Mud Flaps, Skirts is WELL NOTED!!!!!
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Posted: Friday, April 24, 2015 - 03:51 AM UTC
So, here's how she looks after the nose job
And the completed construction with primer on....
Gary
And the completed construction with primer on....
Gary
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Posted: Friday, April 24, 2015 - 07:02 AM UTC
Nice work changing the nose. Excellent.
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Posted: Friday, April 24, 2015 - 09:43 PM UTC
Gary, that's looking really nice. What will you do for a paint finish; overall green or winter whitewash?
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Posted: Saturday, April 25, 2015 - 04:17 AM UTC
Thank chaps.
Like the real things, this is guarantee to generate some controversy :lol: :lol:
From Wikipedia:
The real thing:
Painted with a base coat of Tamiya Pink Fine Surface Primer. Colour modulation is next but will have to wait until we move as my spraying area has been taken over with other things :roll:
[size=85]
Gary
Like the real things, this is guarantee to generate some controversy :lol: :lol:
From Wikipedia:
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The monument was erected in Štefánik square in the Smíchov district, and was dedicated on July 29, 1945, by Soviet General Ivan Konev and top municipal representatives. The tank rested on a massive five-metre stone pedestal, its barrel pointing menacingly westward. It was built to commemorate the arrival of Konev's First Ukrainian Front, namely the Fourth Tank Brigade led by Lelyushenko, on May 9, 1945, effectively liberating Czechoslovakia from German occupation. It was originally intended to represent Lt I.G. Goncharenko's T-34-85 medium tank of the 63rd Tank Brigade, the very first tank to enter Prague. However, the actual monument was an IS-2m heavy tank instead of a T-34, and its turret was mis-labelled 23; Goncharenko's tank had borne the tactical marking I-24.
Following the communist coup of 1948, the monument was elevated to the status of National Cultural Monument, commemorating the liberation of Prague by the Red Army, and the square was renamed Soviet Tank Square.
After the 1989 Velvet Revolution and the end of communist censorship, the legacy of the tank was openly discussed. For many citizens, the tank symbolised the Soviet occupation that ended Prague Spring in 1968 and the subsequent permanent installation of Soviet military units, rather than the events of World War II. Popular local lore noted that the number 23 painted on the tank's turret was indicative of the year of the Soviet invasion (1945 + 23 = 1968). In February 1991, historian Pavel Bělina argued that there were "neither moral nor historical grounds" for preserving the monument.
On the night of April 27, 1991, art student David Černý and friends painted the tank pink and erected a large finger suggesting an obscene gesture on its turret, signing the work "David Černý and the Neostunners". Černý was arrested under an often-abused law concerning "public disturbances", and after an official protest by the Russian government, the tank was re-painted green. However, fifteen members of the newly elected parliament took advantage of their official immunity and painted the tank back to pink in protest against Černý's arrest. The national monument status was abolished, Černý was released, and the tank was eventually removed after being repeatedly being painted green, then pink again, a few more times. The tank is now located at Military Museum Lešany near Týnec nad Sázavou.
The real thing:
Painted with a base coat of Tamiya Pink Fine Surface Primer. Colour modulation is next but will have to wait until we move as my spraying area has been taken over with other things :roll:
[size=85]
Gary
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Posted: Saturday, April 25, 2015 - 09:30 PM UTC
Now THAT is going to stand out on the display shelf!
Terry
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