Hi guys , I have applied 2 coats of enamel filters on top of gloss protected basecoat. I have used an oil paint pin wash and also oil to blacken the vents on engine hatch. Thing is now its dry the black is ......well , too black and new looking. My question is this gentlemen. Can I apply an enamel filter over the entire tank to tone down the black or is this a disaster waiting to happen ? If this is a bad idea can anybody out there advise a better option.
Thanks folks.
Good regards
Ian
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filter on top of oil?
buckster
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Posted: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 - 12:03 AM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 - 06:26 AM UTC
I'd try to remove the wash by using thinner to see if you could reduce the darkness of the shade. Filters usually cannot lighten an area to tone it down. Sometimes I use the pigments to lighten the shade of the paint underneath by working it in the areas needed
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Posted: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 - 02:39 PM UTC
Ian, I agree with JA, you're not going to be able to lighten black oil with a filter, but it's also right that the advantage of having used oil is that you should still be able to adjust it, unless it's been dry for a long time, or you've subsequently sealed over it. You may not want to remove it completely, but try blending it or softening it, first perhaps with a completely dry clean brush (not too small... 3 - 5?). Or to get more blending power or to remove some it, just moisten the tip of the brush with thinners, wipe it once or twice on a towel, then carefully work on the bits you want to lessen, or remove, or blend. Do little at a time, work at the edges, keep checking it... If it gets too wet with thinners, blow on it or warm it a little to dry it off a bit... It's all about getting the paint at the right point where it will do what you want it to do.
Remember also that it's not always necessary to brush in a direction, try just touching the brush to the surface so that you're getting a more stippled dotty effect, and you're not spreading it further.
If this oil is on top of a solid base colour, you could also try using some of the base colour back on top... Needs a subtle approach to avoid looking like it's just been painted over though - go for the approach above first though, reworking the black, and maybe work a tiny bit of very dark brown in?
Remember also that it's not always necessary to brush in a direction, try just touching the brush to the surface so that you're getting a more stippled dotty effect, and you're not spreading it further.
If this oil is on top of a solid base colour, you could also try using some of the base colour back on top... Needs a subtle approach to avoid looking like it's just been painted over though - go for the approach above first though, reworking the black, and maybe work a tiny bit of very dark brown in?
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Posted: Saturday, April 18, 2015 - 10:45 PM UTC
Thanks JA & Mathew I appreciate the advice and will give it a go. Hope you both had a nice weekend.
Regards
Ian
Regards
Ian