hi all, well i decided to try and make the camo netting using the bandage technique, some one told me that you need, to soak the bandage in white glue and water solution, i did and it makes it thick and it take out the appearnce of the netting. just in general are there any tips and tricks i need to know to make a good camo net.

thnx all

Hi, I use this technique all the time. Just mix the solution a little thinner than before, run the gauze between your thumb and forefinger to gently squeeze out the excess glue. Lay it on a piece of kitchen towel and use tweezers and a paint brush to put it back into shape. Lay it on the model and use the paint brush to get it to follow the contours of the model and then leave to set. Once dry paint as normal. I also have tried adding dried herbs or tea leave before it dries to get the leafy modern camoflage, but with limited success so far. I am intending to add strips of paper to get the rag strip type of netting used by the British in Europe during WW2.

It's all quite easy really. Experiment and enjoy.

thnx winchweight, while waitng for this post to get answred i had a go at one, i wasnt very pleased with it, it just doesnt look like the ones i see all you guys make.

i dont know where to go from here, so if any of you guys can come up with some miracle advise i sure would be reall happy

If the results are too thick then I recommend thinning down the glue water mix with more water.
Also consider the gause you're using. Some are thicker than others and that may be adding to it. You may want to try a different gause.

As I'm pondering what else to try you may give this a go.
Take some open lace or household screening material, spray it with spray adhesive (not on the model) then sprinkle on some parsley flakes. Then paint it.
Never tried it, never heard of it being done that way either - might be worth a shot if you have the stuff.

You might want to try "Cheese Cloth." I, my self, use the medical gauze technique, but i have heard of guys using chese cloth. Its a little bit thinner than guaze.
Like Slodder said, try using a different gauze.
Did you unfold the guaze completly. I have had guaze that is folded a couple of times and it doesnt look as if it is.

Here's my suggestion...

1. position the clean, untreated cloth in the model exactly as you'd like it to appear.
2. mix your water/ glue solution (try to go slightly less than 50% glue)
3. using a "throw-away" brush, dip into the solution and lightly touch the soaked brush to the positioned camo net. This way, the capillary effect will distribute the solution throughout the netting without over saturation. The netting should then dry and harden in place.

soaking the cloth and laying it out to dry will only increase the likelihood of problems IMHO. It's better to let the natural absorbancy of the cloth do the work. Of course, you'l have to touch the soaked brush all around the netting and make sure the glue mix is suffciently distributed.

4. allow to dry.
5. Paint the net in place or carefully remove and paint.

hi guys, thnx i will see what i can do

matt

if it's too think then make the glue even thinner, just keep adding water.. should look like milk in the end. sorry if someone alreay said this

There is a possibility that you dont get the right result if the gaze spaces are very small and the gluewater stuff sticks in there and messes up. So maybe a lil wider blocks gaze and a lil thinner white glue/water. I also believe that the mix will not dry very quick so you have the time after soaking to squeeze and get the excess off and then put it in the rigt place. I ve also used some cloth paint in dust that i dilluted in the water and got the gaze ready painted, try to use this also . For adding flakes of herbs i dont use the white glue cause being heavier drives the herbs anywhere. I use 3M spray Mount that i spray in waves and adding flakes after everyone till the desired

ok all, i have done some experimneting, i have some good relsuts, not 100 % exaclty what i wanted ut i am pretty happy and so i am going to stick with this method, will have pics of it soon

When I built my M151A2 with dug in for Operation Coverup. See photos in my gallery. I used a modified method of surgical gauze.
DAY 1: Placed plastic wrap over the poles, places the gauze over the plastic wrap and positioned it the way I wanted it to be. I then took a white glue/water mix (approx 50-50) applied it and allowed the gauze to absorb it. Let it sit over night,
DAY 2: Applied a second coat of glue/water.
DAY 3: glue/water mix used to glue Italian Seasoning (spices)
DAY 4: Spray painted the camouflage pattern.

THis method creates a firm enough netting that will alow me to remove the netting to still work under it.

Below is a link to a pretty good article over at MIssing Links on making Hessian Tape cammo nets...

HTH,

Shaun

http://www.missing-lynx.com/articles/britain/emhess/hessian.htm

I am lucky that my wife works in a lab, and brings home all the surgical guaze I could ever use! My dios are going to be nothing but nets soon! They work very well, and are compatible with 1/35th scale. I have not tried the glue/water mix to affix them on vehicles ( as mine are usually strung), but will try that next time I have to add them to a vehicle.

Thanks for the cool tip guys. Cheers!

Actually one thing I reccomend is to steep the gauze in coffee or a black/ dark green/ brown acrylic for a while. As the gauze is so white it is hard to paint the inner layers when rolled. Adding too much paint to get the inner areas can cause other problems. When rolling the netting up, add some herbs to the inner layers as well to add more realistic contours and not only have the camo leaves on the outside!
Using cling film to place the netting is a good idea. It will take its contour perfectly and not have any running glue on your model. When dry, remove the nettingand cling film and then superglue the netting back in place!

what id do is;

take the model you want to apply it to, and add cling-film to the area where the netting is to be added, making sure you push it into all the nooks and crannies.

get your mesh, (or if your lazy like me commercially bought precoloured cammo nets), and drape it over the model and arrange it how you want.

get some white glue, acrylic paint of your chosen colour and thin it with water until its like milk.

using an old brush, carefully apply it ti the netting, allowing the net to absorb it rather than paint it on.

if you want add dried herbs or strips of masking tape for hessian tape, make sure they are layered onto the the net or they will look false.

once this has dried remove it from the model, the cling film will have stopped and glue and paint from getting to it, and airbrush a lighter version of your base colour to give the effect of fading. wash and drybrush to suit, and add it to your model. this way it remains removable so you can take it off if you change your mind.

cheers

joe

Hope you're not using plaster-imprenated gauze for making casts for broken arms! LOL!
#:-)

Now that thats all said and done, How about another option of Using Poles and Spreaders to hold it up to Camo a vehicle and stuff underneath? Lets here your Suggestions and Opinions on that, As well as How you would build the poles and spreaders....

Apache402 Out!

I had real good luck with the gauze by stretching it a bit to enlarge the holes, and then just dipping it in Rit dye for color. Never did the glue/water thing so I can't say how it turns out.

Art

someone post a pic of how it looks (the German version)

german version bandage gauze camo netting

and a really nice one!!!!!!

I use cheese cloth to make most of my nets what I do is wet the edges of the cheese cloth with the white glue and water mix and fold over the corners not to have it look frayed ...I then add the straps from tamiya tape and buckles from wire I place it on my kit and the wet it with the glue and water and it all stays right where I want it ...If you want to change something you can go back over it with the water and glue and that will soften it up a bit .


Rick