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Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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Bergepanther front hatch cover
PanzerKarl
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Posted: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 - 09:56 PM UTC
I have just made a start on my Hobby boss Bergepanther with 2cm flak.I noticed that most Bergepanthers have their front transmission cover missing and you can see the drivers seat and gearbox,Did all Bergepanther have their transmission covers missing?
I suppose it makes sense as the crews need to get out and having no turret exit

If so that would mean I have to buy some frontal interior parts and would not need full interior that cost over £40

Thanks
Karl
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Posted: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 - 10:18 PM UTC
I have seen pictures of the later Bergepanthers with driver/radio operator hatch cover in place. The early ones w/o the winch were a basic Panther without a turret and a wooden hatch cover.

As a recovery person I would salvage a hatch cover for my vehicle to protect from air bursts and small arms fire. Being on an AA gun every little bit will help when the fights come looking for you.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 - 11:25 PM UTC
I don't the types with the square superstructure had the oprtion to fit the plate there. The two crewmen who sat in the transverse seats over the driveline would have nowhere for their heads if a plate were fitted.

Looking at the photos and Doyle's drawings in PT16 and PT5, I don't even think that the later Bergepanther had the holes for fitting the flange that would support it.
PanzerKarl
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Posted: Thursday, June 04, 2015 - 01:49 AM UTC
I have found a CMK part interior set for Dragon panther do you think it will fit into the Hobby boss kit?



Thanks Jim/Robert for you comments
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Posted: Thursday, June 04, 2015 - 02:20 AM UTC
Sorry, no idea. I do have some Dragon Panther Gs though and the internal width of the lower hull is 49.7mm, so if your hull is no narrower, there is a reasonable chance that it would fit. There are obviously differences between the gun tank and the ARV (like the transverse crew seats and no ammo bins) but I have an idea that there were also changes in the driver's seat from D/A to G.
PanzerKarl
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Posted: Thursday, June 04, 2015 - 02:34 AM UTC
Thanks Robert,I have just measured the lower hull and it is about the same as the Dragon just under 50mm.

Karl
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Posted: Thursday, June 04, 2015 - 02:58 AM UTC
Karl

I've just recently fitted that kit to a Bergepanther I'm building, and trust me, while it's one of the few available, it's not an easy kit to build.

If you want to know my real feelings about it, sorry, but they're not printable!

Regards
Rob
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Posted: Thursday, June 04, 2015 - 03:57 AM UTC

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Karl

I've just recently fitted that kit to a Bergepanther I'm building, and trust me, while it's one of the few available, it's not an easy kit to build.

If you want to know my real feelings about it, sorry, but they're not printable!

Regards
Rob



I guess your talking about the CMK kit not the bergepanther?
If so what problems did you encounter?

Karl
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Posted: Thursday, June 04, 2015 - 02:20 PM UTC
G'day Karl

Yes, the CMK kit. Instructions not very clear, very difficult to decide which part goes where, and quality of parts very average.

I ended up using a combination of this kit, the Verlinden upgrade set for the Italeri Bergepanther, and a bit of scratchbuilding.

Have fun!

Regards

Rob
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