I've been digging through the sticky thread called "Finishing and Weathering" and there doesn't seem to be a full list that aligns with my approach. See below - I'd love to get feedback from folks and see if I'm missing anything or have anything out of order. Feedback on the "why" would be great.
Thanks!
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1) Enamel Primer
2) Red primer
3) Hairspray layer
4) Acrylic camo/base paint
5) Hairspray chipping
6) Hand paint brush & sponge chipping
7) Acrylic clear gloss
8) Decals or dry transfers
9) Enamel Filters
10) Individual panel outlines
11) Acrylic clear gloss
12) Paint details (shovels, exhausts, etc.)
13) Enamel Pinwash
14) Overall oil rendering
15) Acrylic clear flat (model master)
16) Dust enamel washes
17) Mud sprays (plaster + paint)
18) Special effects (oil/gas)
19) Pigments
20) Mount to base
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Updated finishing and weathering flow...?
Posted: Sunday, June 14, 2015 - 03:33 AM UTC
Armored76
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Posted: Sunday, June 14, 2015 - 10:39 AM UTC
Looks good to me... The only thing I tend to additionally do is take out the sponge AFTER the decals have been applied to replicate paint chips on the markings, as well.
Cheers,
Cristian
Cheers,
Cristian
Posted: Sunday, June 14, 2015 - 10:55 AM UTC
Ah, nice catch. Here's the updated version:
1) Enamel Primer
2) Red primer
3) Hairspray layer
4) Acrylic camo/base paint
5) Hairspray chipping
6) Acrylic clear gloss
7) Decals or dry transfers
8) Hand paint brush & sponge chipping
9) Enamel Filters
10) Individual panel outlines
11) Acrylic clear gloss
12) Paint details (shovels, exhausts, etc.)
13) Enamel Pinwash
14) Overall oil rendering
15) Acrylic clear flat (model master)
16) Dust enamel washes
17) Mud sprays (plaster + paint)
18) Special effects (oil/gas)
19) Pigments
20) Mount to base
1) Enamel Primer
2) Red primer
3) Hairspray layer
4) Acrylic camo/base paint
5) Hairspray chipping
6) Acrylic clear gloss
7) Decals or dry transfers
8) Hand paint brush & sponge chipping
9) Enamel Filters
10) Individual panel outlines
11) Acrylic clear gloss
12) Paint details (shovels, exhausts, etc.)
13) Enamel Pinwash
14) Overall oil rendering
15) Acrylic clear flat (model master)
16) Dust enamel washes
17) Mud sprays (plaster + paint)
18) Special effects (oil/gas)
19) Pigments
20) Mount to base
SSGToms
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Posted: Sunday, June 14, 2015 - 09:18 PM UTC
Jake, I see nothing wrong with your sequence. Very comprehensive, actually.
Posted: Sunday, June 14, 2015 - 09:24 PM UTC
Thanks, Matt!
I tend to build a lot, then paint all those builds, then build some more, then go back to weathering later...helps to keep my interests engaged. But that means I lose track of the linear process. Trying to build a to-do list where I can note where I left off so I can quickly pick it back up.
Off I go!
I tend to build a lot, then paint all those builds, then build some more, then go back to weathering later...helps to keep my interests engaged. But that means I lose track of the linear process. Trying to build a to-do list where I can note where I left off so I can quickly pick it back up.
Off I go!
Phael_minis
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Posted: Monday, June 15, 2015 - 10:04 AM UTC
I would put step 12 on 5th position, I think painting details on a gloss finish more difficult.
Posted: Monday, June 15, 2015 - 10:12 AM UTC
Good point! Updated list:
1) Enamel Primer
2) Red primer
3) Hairspray layer
4) Acrylic camo/base paint
5) Hairspray chipping
6) Paint details (shovels, exhausts, etc.)
7) Acrylic clear gloss
8) Decals or dry transfers
9) Hand paint brush & sponge chipping
10) Enamel Filters
11) Individual panel outlines
12) Acrylic clear gloss
13) Enamel Pinwash
14) Overall oil rendering
15) Acrylic clear flat (model master)
16) Dust enamel washes
17) Mud sprays (plaster + paint)
18) Special effects (oil/gas)
19) Pigments
20) Mount to base
1) Enamel Primer
2) Red primer
3) Hairspray layer
4) Acrylic camo/base paint
5) Hairspray chipping
6) Paint details (shovels, exhausts, etc.)
7) Acrylic clear gloss
8) Decals or dry transfers
9) Hand paint brush & sponge chipping
10) Enamel Filters
11) Individual panel outlines
12) Acrylic clear gloss
13) Enamel Pinwash
14) Overall oil rendering
15) Acrylic clear flat (model master)
16) Dust enamel washes
17) Mud sprays (plaster + paint)
18) Special effects (oil/gas)
19) Pigments
20) Mount to base
Posted: Monday, June 15, 2015 - 10:14 AM UTC
One other question for the group: Should 19 and 20 be reversed? Is it better to mount to the base, then put pigments on so a) you don't handle and mess up the pigments and b) you match the ground work and the vehicle weathering?
Or should it actually be
[..]
19) Pigments
20) Mount to base
21) Blend pigments
?
Or should it actually be
[..]
19) Pigments
20) Mount to base
21) Blend pigments
?
11Bravo_C2
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Posted: Monday, June 15, 2015 - 10:17 AM UTC
Awesome list. Copied and pasted to a finishing document im writing. Questions..
Should filters be over a gloss or matt surface? What would the difference be?
Should filters be over a gloss or matt surface? What would the difference be?
Quoted Text
Ah, nice catch. Here's the updated version:
1) Enamel Primer
2) Red primer
3) Hairspray layer
4) Acrylic camo/base paint
5) Hairspray chipping
6) Acrylic clear gloss
7) Decals or dry transfers
8) Hand paint brush & sponge chipping
9) Enamel Filters
10) Individual panel outlines
11) Acrylic clear gloss
12) Paint details (shovels, exhausts, etc.)
13) Enamel Pinwash
14) Overall oil rendering
15) Acrylic clear flat (model master)
16) Dust enamel washes
17) Mud sprays (plaster + paint)
18) Special effects (oil/gas)
19) Pigments
20) Mount to base
Armored76
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Posted: Monday, June 15, 2015 - 10:29 AM UTC
Jake: I think applying first and then blending the pigments is the easier way to handle this. Think of the vehicle underside, for instance, which is not accessible once the base is on.
Ivan: I think filters shall be applied on non-gloss surfaces. Gloss surfaces tend to let the filters flow away in the recesses which then again makes them the right choice for pin washes.
Cheers,
Cristian
Ivan: I think filters shall be applied on non-gloss surfaces. Gloss surfaces tend to let the filters flow away in the recesses which then again makes them the right choice for pin washes.
Cheers,
Cristian
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Posted: Monday, June 15, 2015 - 10:32 AM UTC
Thank you Cristian..
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Ivan: I think filters shall be applied on non-gloss surfaces. Gloss surfaces tend to let the filters flow away in the recesses which then again makes them the right choice for pin washes.
Cheers,
Cristian