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EPS Springer use
JoeyKast44
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Posted: Thursday, June 18, 2015 - 04:24 PM UTC
Is the EPS springer used in Afghanistan? and if so what variants because MMK does one with a M2 browning on it and it looks really cool, but is it really used like that?
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Posted: Thursday, June 18, 2015 - 04:42 PM UTC

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Is the EPS springer used in Afghanistan?



I guess so... :









No MG in sight though....

H.P.
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Posted: Thursday, June 18, 2015 - 04:50 PM UTC
This was fielded by the UK Army, for a limited trial, for a limited period, not well received, & limited usefulness to the UK Army at that time, withdrawn from service.

They were also being disposed of last year via Govt, surplus disposal sites.
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Posted: Thursday, June 18, 2015 - 05:03 PM UTC

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They were also being disposed of last year via Govt, surplus disposal sites.



http://army-uk.com/equip.php?ID=673

H.P.
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Posted: Thursday, June 18, 2015 - 11:49 PM UTC
Also pics in the Tankograd book "Task Forces Helmand"

The version who is depicted is the one without weapons.



You should take this one for Afghanistan

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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2015 - 12:22 AM UTC
http://www.fast-webstore.com/www-vt-models-cz/eshop/0/0/5/800-EPS-Springer-with-M2-Machine-gun
http://www.fast-webstore.com/www-vt-models-cz/eshop/0/0/5/671-EPS-SPRINGER
Malvin
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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2015 - 01:04 AM UTC
the springer was in service for 18 mths from purchase, it battlefield mission was 400m which to go to the helicopter landing sight self load a single 1 ton pallet and take it back to the forward operating base.

in reality they were crap it took over an hour to self load a pallet with a winch that was under powered and kept cutting out, the thing was noisy being a 1.4 naturally aspirated diesel running off a cvt belt drive instead of a proper gearbox, and they where only 2 wheel drive.

the army paid £120,000 per springer but the actual tomcar which it was based on only cost £20,000.

the vehicles were reduced to being camp taxis and mail delivery in the end before they got sold off to mod sales. com.

however there is a new variant which is called gaurdiam which is a fully remote controlled version of the springer which is fitted with loads of cameras to go in as a recce vehicle.

hope that helps a little guys

thanks craig
sabreuk
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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2015 - 01:08 AM UTC
oh the heavy weapon variant of springer with the .50 in the load bed was never bought it was purely a test vehicle as the soft suspension couldn't take the recoil of the .50 and sustain accurate fire.

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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2015 - 02:48 AM UTC
Craig thank you for your informations.

Frenchy thank you for pics you have posted. I didn't know the third and the fourth.
brian638
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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2015 - 03:35 AM UTC
Guys, echoing Craig's comments, it had a very short service life. It was a poor vehicle and was withdrawn following safety concerns despite being purchased on an UOR The process smacked of a contract being made for a friend of a friend. It was just one of those vehicles that should have never seen the light of day.
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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2015 - 07:07 AM UTC

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however there is a new variant which is called gaurdiam which is a fully remote controlled version of the springer which is fitted with loads of cameras to go in as a recce vehicle.

thanks craig



and this is in current use by the IDF; and would make a great kit.

Ahh, don't you just love the politics of procurement... paying almost 10x the value of something, just because it's for the govt.

Kylie
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Posted: Saturday, June 20, 2015 - 02:20 AM UTC
for those interested this is guardium based on the springer





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Posted: Saturday, June 20, 2015 - 04:06 AM UTC
Wow, the "Guardian" looks nice. I could see some Sci-Fi potential there...the EPS "Springer" not so much.
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