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Remote firing mechanism for Browning M2
Hammerton
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Posted: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 - 03:52 PM UTC
Hi Folks

Apologies if this has been covered already.

I'm building the Tamiya Tiran 5. A really good kit, but lamentably lacking in some details.

What I really need are some good images of the remote firing mechanism for the Browning M2 fitted above the 105mm main gun.

Many thanks in advance.

Simon
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Posted: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 - 07:45 PM UTC
Hi Simon

I've noticed you've asked this question on other forums, so maybe you've received better answer there, but here's what the mount looks like on a Merkava :

https://www.flickr.com/photos/zachievenor/17243605015/sizes/o/

I guess you would just have to attach the triggering wire to the rectangular part with an oblong hole...

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Posted: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 - 08:06 PM UTC
Could it look at all like the M1A1 Abrams TUSK barrel mounted M2 mechanism? I'm sure there are many photos of that out there. Also the CROWS mount M2 set up could be similar? Just wondering as I have no other references or insight to address that application.
Hammerton
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 - 12:02 AM UTC
Thanks very much gents

Unfortunately the vehicles you've referenced both use an electronic actuator, while the Tiran used a system of cables and levers/rocker arms.

However I am going to be building both Abrams and Merkavas in the near future, so your information will still be put to good use.

Cheers Simon
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 - 01:10 AM UTC
The two devices are completely different. The US TUSK version has a remote firing actuator attached to the side of the mg body. The electrical version used by the IDF is attached to the rear of the mg body. If I remember Prime Portal had some good shots of the Abrams TUSK version.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 - 01:52 AM UTC
To me this doesn't look like an electronic actuator...



Full size

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Hammerton
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 - 03:31 AM UTC
Hi Joe

Apologies I didn't explain myself very well. I meant the Merkava and the Abrams use electrical activation, different forms certainly, but electrical and not mechanical like the Tiran.
Hammerton
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 - 03:33 AM UTC
That's a very useful image, thank you
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