Hi all, just wondering on the best way of sinking a vehicle into plaster "mud" without the vehicle coming out covered in plaster.

The vehicle i plan on burhing has already been weathered and finished, but as a last minute have planned to add it to a dio.

I was thinking of spraying cling wrap with canola oil spray, placing the canola oil side down onto the fresh plaster then gently push the tank in and leave it there till the plaster has dried.....thoughts?

'Could' work, but the clingfilm will want to tear on sharp corners...?

Oiling the clingfilm might not be useful, as it will make the painting harder, & clingfilm will peel off ok anyway.

Also the plaster would have to be a bit runny to flow, & if too thickly applied will crack, unless that is the effect you are looking for?

Suggest you do a small test first.

Buildup the groundwork with colored Styrofoam/etc, with trenches for the depth of wheels/track, minimizing the depth of plaster needed.
Dye the plaster with brown/red/tan poster paint.

good luck

You could wait until the plaster is set up and not soupy,then brush some water on your tracks and push away. Should work but experiment first so you get the hang of it?
J

If you have a "shelf queen" of similar size to the vehicle you're using in the dio, you might also consider using it to push into that space/area. That way, you won't be getting your primary vehicle all gunked up and worry about having to clean it up before final assembly.

So I have just made up a test of 4 different materials to put over the plaster to protect the vehicle I plan to bog. I would upload a photo but the kitmaker gallery won't let me f-ing technology!

So when I can from left to right is a freezer bag, cling wrap doubled over, single cling wrap and then cling wrap sprayed with canola spray oil. I then indented tracks into the plastic. From first impressions the single layer cling wrap is looking the best, also the freezer bag

So now i have technology sorted, here are the photos of the tests. 1st one is when the plaster was poured, the second is the results.

2nd no and 3rd I think is too clean a mark. Either 1st or 4th.

Pete

I agree … No. 1 (good). I like the grain in No. 4 (best). I have a similar project in mind, so I'm very interested in seeing your final result.

Just a thought … Can you get this stuff in your neck of the woods? I was able to find it here on eBay:
DAP 128-oz Fast ’N Final Lightweight Spackling.

A fellow modeler recommended DAP as a less messy alternative to plaster. I’ve only done some limited testing but the results look pretty good so far — seems easy to work with and doesn’t shrink — still need to test track marks. HTH.

Good luck and please keep us posted.

—mike

So here is the base, plaster has gone off. I ended up using cling wrap sprayed with cooking spray. While the cling wrap caused a few lines they were easily tidied up with a wet sponge.

I have added tamiya diorama texture paint to the surface. I will add at least 2 coats before i airbrush the surface the correct colours.

looks good Nick

So I have been trying to upload a few pics from my iPhone without success. I have actually just finished this diorama today. I feel it has come up really well and looks quite bogged and realistic. I think I will title the dio "Stuck......like a pig in s$@t!!".

I won't be able to upload photos from my tablet until I have a new internet provider in a few weeks and I might wait till after the annual SAPMA model exhibition in October 10/11th.

But watch this space!!

So, here is one of the progress shots i have been able to upload.



Thoughts?

Looks good to me Nick

If you feel like it, the entry of the left track (right edge of base) could use a little work.

Nice!

One thing you might want to consider if it's not to late is that the track marks are too clean. The weight of the vehicle over soft ground would not only leave a fairly deep impression as you have depicted, but the soft earth/mud would also squish (very technical term)out along either sides of the tracks so that the ground on either side if the tracks would not look so clean.

So here is another shot with the tank stuck



Thanks for the feedback!!

Looks great! But I would think it would take a bit more than that to get that pig stuck

The Mud looks great, very realistic.

Chris

How about adding clear resin or similar around the wheels to show it being boggy?

Looks good. Like Paul said you need to make the mud look wet. Acrylic gel medium works great. Just don't stir it up too much or it will make bubbles and look foamy when dry.

Thanks for the suggestions, as per one of my previous posts I have actually finished this dio, and this particular shot is a WIP shot. The finished dio has a glossy finish to the mud.

So today is the first day of the SAPMA model expo. I will be entering this dio and maybe another. So here is another shot of progress from my dio.

So i have entered the dio into the SAPMA comp. Here is the near finished result. I added laser cut bamboo leaves to the bamboo and also some creepers through the bamboo and over the log. I received a few good comments while filling out the entry form. It's in the judges hands now




Opinions and thoughts please?

No luck with this dio today unfortunately, but still got a lot of positive feedback and the only other vehicle I entered won first in its clas and best afv of show, so pretty stoked. Must build a lot more for next years comp!!