I have seen alot of woderfully detailed trucks, and it looks like it's a great thing to build so I went to the local hobby shop and picked up a m-925 italeri truck and use some of the advice from pevise post by guntruck and others to convert my truck build to look as impressive as there I hope.

I have seen a post were to get accurate tires from? But can't remember where I seen it, the one's in the kit look to small and would apreciate some help on where to find the correct tires.

Thank You

Happy Modeling

Hi Tom,

I'm not aware of any AM tires for the M925, only for the M923.

The tires in your kir ARE very accurate actually. Your kit is original M925 truck variant, so called A0 (zero) variant. This variant had smaller wheels and there where dual wheels on rear axes. Later M925A1 and M925A2 variants had much larger wheels and duals were replaced by single wheels on rear axes. Italeri also make M923A1 model with larger wheels (M923 is a truck without a winch and M925 is the same truck, but with winch). Wheels in their M923 trucks indeed need replacement, as they are ugly, but those in your kit are actually fine and as far as I know there are no aftermarket replacements. Unless of course you want to convert your truck to M925A1 or M925A2 - then you have a big choice of aftermarket resin wheels to choose from. A2 variant has the same size wheels as A1, but they have the CTIS installed (central tire inflation system). You can get resin wheels for A1 and/or A2 from: Hobby Fan, CAM, CMK, MR Models, Real Models or Ordnance Models.

Converting your model to correct M925A1 or M925A2 truck requires some more work, so I don't think you should bother - build it as is!

Here on my web page you can find my article about detailing Italeri M923A1model:
http://vodnik.net/index_feat.htm

In the Reviews section of my website you can find reviews of Italeri M923A1 kit (I also mention M925 kit you have there), of Real Models resin detail set for this kit and of two wheels sets: from CMK and CAM:
http://vodnik.net/index_rv.htm

Best Regards,
Pawel

sorry about the mistake
on my part it may be m-923 there the same thing right , if anyone knows were to get them I would greatly appreciate the help, I seen post with them on it an it improved it a 1000% I have order the edruad PE parts but can not find the tires for the m-923

Thanks alot for the help

Happy Modeling

Kevin,

M923 and M925 use the same "small" tires/wheels. I'm sure you meant M923A1/M925A1 and M923A2/M925A2 as these variants use larger tires (Italeri called them Big Foot) and there are resin wheels for them available from many sources.

Regards,
Pawel

I've been using resin standard 5-ton (military tread - non-directional) tires produced by Real Model for a couple of years now. I had a supplier of nearly identical tires before then, but since have not produced any.

For "civilian" 5-ton tires (called "highway" tires by some trucker vets) I use resin examples from PSP Models.

I believe this is what Tom is referring to when he mentioned referencing what I've written in the past about these tires.

Gunnie

Tom, contact Robert Burnside. His user ID here is Alpenflage. He has an online hobby shop and has resin 5 ton tires on hand. I do not believe they are listed on his site, but he does have them in his shop. His shop's website is Alpenflage Hobbies. Deal with confidence, he's a great guy.

OOPS.... #:-) Yep, I meant the "Bigfoot". I was not aware that the 923zip and 925zip were the same wheel pattern. I had A.S.S.U.M.E.D. that all 923(--) were 6x and that all 925(--) were 10 wheelers.

Would it be safe to A.S.S.U.M.E. that the M923A2 and M925A2 (only) incorporated the self-contained inflation system? (or am I striking out there as well. )

I'll go back to my mortars now, it's a little safer there....

(Hell, I'm learning something here too.)

You've got it now Kevin.
M923, M925, M931, M932, M936 et al are the 10 wheeled variants.
M923A1, M925A1, M931A1...have the 6 wheel set up.
M923A2, M925A2...give you a beefier engine and 6 wheels with CTIS.

For some reason, starting with the 900 series 5 tons and HMMWV series, the Army stopped just adding "w/w" to identify a vehicle equipped with a self-recovery winch. They now use a separate nomenclature for the non-winch and with winch variants.

Whereas we used to have nomenclatures like M35A2 and M35A2w/w, we now get M998 and M1038 (an M998w/w), M923 and M925 (an M923w/w), etc. The only exception to this is the M936w/w, which is a 900-series 5 ton wrecker. But all of the wreckers have the front winch so it seems rather redundant.

HEMTTs are the exact opposite. We had M977 and M977w/w, but the wreckers were always just M984E1 or M984A1. Strange, any way, it always made the backside of the monthly deadline report a pain in the butt to fill out.

Well... I guess I concentrated too much on looking for all posible information on A1 variant, that I completely missed the presence of "small" resin 5-ton tires for A0 on the market. Are they significant improvement over those included in Italeri M925 kit? I understand that they are necessary for anyone converting M35 to M54, but are they needed for building M925 from Italeri kit? Wheels in this kit seem to be nice, but I only saw them on sprues - I didn't start this model yet.

I had some bad experience with Real Models products, but maybe those wheels are an exception.

Regards,
Pawel

Thanks Rob... I'll keep that aside for future reference.

I've built the Italeri M923A1 and used TAC (now CAM) after-market tires along with all kinds of other mods to it. Had lots of fun building it too (took best of and best of show a couple of times with it), and I've always wanted to do the M925-- as a follow-on, but the crap kit tires (IMHO) and what I thought was a lack of A-M tires available kept me from doing it.

Thanks for setting me straight here guys! I really should get out more....

Me too Pawel - but these tires are the only consistently "good" Real Model product I've encountered. Just my experience! I think out of four packs of tires, I only got one wheel that was a little warped. A quick dip in boiling water, and a press between two heavy books fixed it. When it comes to Real Model - I try to make every attempt to "see" what I'm purchasing...

Gunnie