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T-34/76 color?
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2004 - 10:40 AM UTC
What's a better match of the T-34's color between Tamiya's XF-58 Olive Green and XF-27 Black Green?
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2004 - 11:54 AM UTC
I have just posted an article on how I make Russian Green in the Rivet Review Board forum, (1:6 T34-85).

Might point you in the right direction.

Best wishes.

Trackpins (Peter)
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2004 - 03:14 PM UTC
"Russian" green ran from a khaki brownish-green to a black green - they had bigger issues to sort out than worrying over shades. Back in the day, Floquill's Pullman Green was the recommended catcha-all for Russian Green.
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2004 - 04:20 PM UTC
Short of a neon green I woulden't worry too much about it. Nfafan was right, they were pretty much painted the shade of the day.
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2004 - 05:19 PM UTC
Yeah, there were times when they didnt even paint the monsters...just rolled right from the factory to the field...btw..trackpins...i am gonna try your mix of green on a 1/35 scale t-34 i have

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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2004 - 10:28 PM UTC
Thanks guys!

Do the Russians use the same colors today?
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Posted: Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 01:53 PM UTC
Russian green can be anything in that range really. From olive drab to medium green to even shades of forest green. There really isnt any set color, but model master does make a wwII acryillic seires of paints and that has a Russian armor green. One thing that is good is if you use an airbrush, and spray in "layers". That is, starting with a darker shade of your color, using black to do so, then getting lighter and lighter with each layer until you get to your origional color. This gives a solid green tank more depth to its paint job and it looks really good. Thats all I can add.

Katyusha
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Posted: Monday, February 02, 2004 - 06:56 AM UTC
Hi All,

Just to wade into this debate, according to the book T-34 STALIN'S WAR-HORSE. PART 1 (Published by AJAKS), Soviet Armour Green was designated 4B0 and appearantly the closest (though not necessarily the exact) match is FS 34102, available though Model Master as "Medium Green", Humbrol # 117 (I think that's it) and Gunze Sangyo H303. Each are listed in their respective range as being FS 34102 equivalent, yet there are differences between the three; the Testor's colour being particularly brighter than the other two. I'm not 100% sure, but I believe Tamiya XF-58 is the closest, though this needs to be verified. Nevertheless, everything that has been said about variations in production in paint lots still generally stands, though I personally don't like using the Dark Greens such as Tam. XF-27 or XF-61 unless I intend to lighten the overall colour via drybrushing or other weathering methods.

HTH.
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