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Posted: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 - 12:01 AM UTC
i bought a kit that includes the rtv type stuff for the mold and 2 part resin for casting.
the part being replicated was thin, when the resin dried it remained pliable, more like vinal.
sooo i bought a different brand off ebay, the name is model pro, and lo and behold it does the same thing. i did notice the remaining resin i didnt use dried hard.

so question is, how do manufactuers get the small parts to dry hard so they can be sanded etc?
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Posted: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 - 12:09 AM UTC
Sounds like either the resin is old, or you are not mixing to the right ratios. Either will result in a soft resin part.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 - 12:28 AM UTC
the company claims its fresh..its simple 1:1 mix. i bumped up the hardener about 50% and the results were brittle like a cracker. so backed off some but still is to pliable. maybe just more experimenting.
actually i was hoping there was a particular brand ppl used that had good results.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 - 12:36 AM UTC
The best brand I have found is Smooth-On products.



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Posted: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 - 03:08 AM UTC

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The best brand I have found is Smooth-On products.






Gino,

What are you using exactly? Thinking of casting my first resin...

Cheers,

Christophe
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Posted: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 - 04:00 AM UTC
1:1 mix is by weight, not volume. Make sure you are using a good set of scales , as even 5% either way can cause problems.

Christopher, this might help. This is a cast work shop I did for my local quite a fews years ago now. Just change the "rubber bands" for sticky tape.

My drop pouring resin workshop

Smooth-On is pretty much exactly the same product as I use.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 - 04:15 AM UTC
Thank you Jason!

Cheers,

Christophe
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Posted: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 - 04:56 AM UTC
I've used Alum-a-lite several times. Works good for me.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 - 05:19 AM UTC

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I've used Alum-a-lite several times. Works good for me.



Alumi lite was the original kit i had.
The model pro set up hard in larger pours..but the small poeces are vinyl-y.

Thanks for the info i'll check out the workshop vid.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 - 08:21 AM UTC
Milliput putty? Like Superfine White Milliput in only part of the mold?
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Posted: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 - 09:55 AM UTC
I've had good luck with this product as well as Micro-Mark's brand of casting resin.

Avoid Amazing brand resin, which is sold by Ben Franklin Crafts.


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I've used Alum-a-lite several times. Works good for me.

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Posted: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 - 10:27 AM UTC
It may pay to try a heat source like a hairdrier with thin parts, but you will have to be careful the item doesn't harden out of form.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 - 12:37 PM UTC
How thin a part are we talking here?
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Posted: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 - 04:02 PM UTC
The part is about .040
The hanger im working in is getting cool now temp wise and had thought about throwing some heat on it.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 - 04:42 PM UTC
Hi John,

Parts that are this, such as your .040" piece, will be pliable for awhile until the resin fully cures, which could be 3-5 days depending on the type of resin used. The reason why is that the part itself doesn't have a lot or resin volume, and therefore doesn't generate a lot of heat during the initial cure process. You could try mixing a batch that's far too much, which will get you a better mix ratio of parts, and just discard the rest.

I can tell you that even with a large batch, the part will remain pliable for up to 24 hours. One of our ship kits has a .040" think flight deck that when cast, has to be cut from the sprue, and allowed to cure flat overnight. What you're seeing is not unusual.

Jon
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Posted: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 - 06:49 PM UTC

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Hi John,

Parts that are this, such as your .040" piece, will be pliable for awhile until the resin fully cures, which could be 3-5 days depending on the type of resin used. The reason why is that the part itself doesn't have a lot or resin volume, and therefore doesn't generate a lot of heat during the initial cure process. You could try mixing a batch that's far too much, which will get you a better mix ratio of parts, and just discard the rest.

I can tell you that even with a large batch, the part will remain pliable for up to 24 hours. One of our ship kits has a .040" think flight deck that when cast, has to be cut from the sprue, and allowed to cure flat overnight. What you're seeing is not unusual.

Jon



Thanks for the info!
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