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Trumpeter SA-8 question
arpikaszabo
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Posted: Thursday, November 26, 2015 - 04:08 AM UTC
Hello everyone,
I have recently acquired the new SA-8 kit from Trumpeter. Before starting the build, I am trying to figure out exactly what version has Trumpeter kitted. My guess is, this is the 9K33M2 or the 9K33M3. Unfortunately I dont know that much about this vehicle, could anyone help me?

Edit: here is a link to an excellent walkaround with the basic 9K33M2: http://svsm.org/gallery/sa-8

For the other vesions, there are several extensive walkarounds on Dishmodels.
grunt136mike
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Posted: Thursday, November 26, 2015 - 05:23 AM UTC
Hi;

What you have there in the walk-around is the Basic early varient with the SAMS un-boxed. The Trumpeter kit is of A Later Mk; ! The Gecko Missiles were later made with longer range and Anti-jamming features, and later versions of the TEL had Better Engines.

CHEERS; MIKE.
andymacrae
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Posted: Thursday, November 26, 2015 - 02:00 PM UTC
From what I can see it best matches these vehicles from the Dishmodels site:

http://www.dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?p=637
http://www.dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?p=1080

especially with reference to details of the missile launcher architecture. Pics I have taken myself of two other vehicles look more like other walkarounds I have seen with a slightly different mounting frame for the missile boxes similar to this one:

http://www.dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?np=3&p=3279&vmode=T&lng=E

note the three control handles and associated pipework on each frame, not present on Trumpeter kit.

So I would say Trumpeter one is a 9A33M3 while the other version is a 9А33БМ3?


Hopefully someone can give a definite answer?

HTH
Andy
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Posted: Thursday, November 26, 2015 - 04:52 PM UTC
9K33M2 "Osa-AK" (US DoD designation SA-8B "Gecko Mod-0") with TELAR 9A33BM2 was introduced in 1975.
No IFF (No NRZ-6P).
9K33M2 "Osa AK" 9A33BM2-1.
9M33M3 "Osa AKM" 9A33BM3-1.
juge75
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Posted: Thursday, November 26, 2015 - 05:05 PM UTC
Osa AK: Telar: 9A33BM2, Missile (containered) 9A33M2.
Osa AKM: (Modernisaed AK) Telar 9A33BM3, Missile 9A33M3, and IFF.
andymacrae
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Posted: Friday, November 27, 2015 - 03:14 AM UTC
So which one is the Trumpeter kit?

Regards,
Andy
juge75
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Posted: Friday, November 27, 2015 - 09:19 AM UTC
AK.
juge75
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Posted: Friday, November 27, 2015 - 09:24 AM UTC
Osa AK


Osa AKM


Trumpeter
arpikaszabo
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Posted: Saturday, November 28, 2015 - 01:09 AM UTC
Thanks a lot for the answers. Now I sort of know what I am building.
andymacrae
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Posted: Sunday, November 29, 2015 - 02:29 AM UTC
Thanks all. So the differences in mounting hardware don't make a difference between types?

Regards,
Andy
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