R.O.K. ARMY K511 2.5ton cargo truck, was this truck used in Vietnam. The new one from AFV.
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Posted: Friday, December 04, 2015 - 05:50 AM UTC
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Posted: Friday, December 04, 2015 - 06:05 AM UTC
Its based on the M35a3. The design was sold to the Koreans by the US Government
Posted: Friday, December 04, 2015 - 06:19 AM UTC
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Its based on the M35a3. The design was sold to the Koreans by the US Government
So it wasn't used in Vietnam, only the m35a1 an maybe the m35a2 was used. So I shouldn't use this kit in a vietnam dio mentioned above?
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Posted: Friday, December 04, 2015 - 06:39 AM UTC
The K511 is actually a licensed-built M35A2 made in Korea. It has Korean-specific mods to some items, which Academy (Def Models Resin and PE) has captured well. This version was not used in Vietnam.
The K511A1 (Also by Academy w/Def Models resin and PE) has similar lights and grill to the M35A3, but it is still an A2 with Korean mods, which include an upgraded engine. Also not used in Vietnam.
K511A1
The base kit on both of the above is the AFV Club M35A2 though, so you could build a US M35A2 from it without using the resin parts. A few M35A2s were used in Vietnam at the end of the war. Most 2 1/2 ton trucks in Vietnam were M35A1s though.
If you use just the resin exhaust, you can build an M35A1, as long as you rework the front turn signals and rear light hangers to A1 types. A pretty good M35A1 can also be made from the AFV Club Nancy Guntruck kit, with a mod to the tail light hangers as well.
Check out Gunny's M35A1 Nancy review/build to see what has to be fixed.
The K511A1 (Also by Academy w/Def Models resin and PE) has similar lights and grill to the M35A3, but it is still an A2 with Korean mods, which include an upgraded engine. Also not used in Vietnam.
K511A1
The base kit on both of the above is the AFV Club M35A2 though, so you could build a US M35A2 from it without using the resin parts. A few M35A2s were used in Vietnam at the end of the war. Most 2 1/2 ton trucks in Vietnam were M35A1s though.
If you use just the resin exhaust, you can build an M35A1, as long as you rework the front turn signals and rear light hangers to A1 types. A pretty good M35A1 can also be made from the AFV Club Nancy Guntruck kit, with a mod to the tail light hangers as well.
Check out Gunny's M35A1 Nancy review/build to see what has to be fixed.
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Posted: Friday, December 04, 2015 - 07:07 AM UTC
What did the ARVN use, anyone know? Did they use the M35A1?
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Posted: Friday, December 04, 2015 - 07:33 AM UTC
The ARVN used some M35A1s but also a bunch of Toyota DW 15L 2.5 ton trucks procured by MACV for the ARVN. The Toyotas were cheaper and easier for the ARVN to maintain.
Thai version, but the same as the ARVN used.
Thai version, but the same as the ARVN used.
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Posted: Friday, December 04, 2015 - 07:43 AM UTC
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Its based on the M35a3. The design was sold to the Koreans by the US Government
The M35A3 is a very different truck. Is has been upgraded with a larger engine, new intake, exhaust, lights, grill, bigger super-single tires w/CTIS, etc., etc... It was not bought by the Federal Govt for regular US Army use. Many states did buy them for use by Army National Guard units though.
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Posted: Friday, December 04, 2015 - 03:26 PM UTC
Not sure why I had A3 on the brain last night.... It is the A2
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Posted: Saturday, December 05, 2015 - 09:54 PM UTC
Thank you Gino! I'm always trying to improve my knowledge of ARVN vehicles and weapons.
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Posted: Sunday, December 06, 2015 - 08:59 PM UTC
Bill,
I found a DEF Model conversion that has the resin and PE parts only from the new Academy K511 kits. You could use the exhaust pipe for an M35A1, canvas bows too.
I don't know if it would be more cost effective to get this set or the whole kit though. The price is $36 for the set by itself. It does include the full wheel set, which is usually about $25 alone.
I found a DEF Model conversion that has the resin and PE parts only from the new Academy K511 kits. You could use the exhaust pipe for an M35A1, canvas bows too.
I don't know if it would be more cost effective to get this set or the whole kit though. The price is $36 for the set by itself. It does include the full wheel set, which is usually about $25 alone.
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Posted: Monday, December 07, 2015 - 01:37 PM UTC
just a note:
I never saw Koreans using anything bigger than an M37 truck out on the roads, but guess they might have used them back in the rear. another note for the masses is that most every truck used out on the unimproved roads (dirt and gravel)had a winch (the M37 didn't of course). A canvas roof top was a rare sight, but there were a few here and there. Same could be said of the bed tarp. Most of these tarps ended up being bunker roofs to prevent leakage when it rained. Always leave the windshield upright! Put a layer of sand bags in the floor, but don't worry about the bed. Another major mistake modelers do is to leave a loose M16 or M60 laying in the front seat while unattended. Never ever happened unless you wanted to pay for it. They stole everything unattached. In a convoy, there would be the M60 with a 20 to 30 round belt, plus a box of 7.62 ball in the floor. Even then the guy riding shot gun would have a couple belts laying close by. When possible, we'd lay flak jackets ontop the seat to set on (protection of the jewels). Two layers were even better if you had extras laying around.
Out on the road (if that's what you want to call it), the M35 was about the last thing you wanted to drive. Besides be a bad ride, they didn't have power steering or brakes. All were manual shift transmissions in country. Kind of funny as all state side trucks had an automatic gear box. Shame we can't get a good kit of the M54, as it had power steering and brakes (means a lot of a rough road).
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I never saw Koreans using anything bigger than an M37 truck out on the roads, but guess they might have used them back in the rear. another note for the masses is that most every truck used out on the unimproved roads (dirt and gravel)had a winch (the M37 didn't of course). A canvas roof top was a rare sight, but there were a few here and there. Same could be said of the bed tarp. Most of these tarps ended up being bunker roofs to prevent leakage when it rained. Always leave the windshield upright! Put a layer of sand bags in the floor, but don't worry about the bed. Another major mistake modelers do is to leave a loose M16 or M60 laying in the front seat while unattended. Never ever happened unless you wanted to pay for it. They stole everything unattached. In a convoy, there would be the M60 with a 20 to 30 round belt, plus a box of 7.62 ball in the floor. Even then the guy riding shot gun would have a couple belts laying close by. When possible, we'd lay flak jackets ontop the seat to set on (protection of the jewels). Two layers were even better if you had extras laying around.
Out on the road (if that's what you want to call it), the M35 was about the last thing you wanted to drive. Besides be a bad ride, they didn't have power steering or brakes. All were manual shift transmissions in country. Kind of funny as all state side trucks had an automatic gear box. Shame we can't get a good kit of the M54, as it had power steering and brakes (means a lot of a rough road).
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Posted: Monday, December 07, 2015 - 02:22 PM UTC
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I never saw Koreans using anything bigger than an M37 truck out on the roads, but guess they might have used them back in the rear.
I guess so as well Here's a ROK Toyota at Cam Ranh Bay :
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Posted: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 - 12:24 AM UTC
that's in the rear. The road is a big difference. Trucks in the had it easy. Trucks on the road were constantly having flat tires for one thing. A twenty mile trip was for sure going to give you two bad tires, and on the road you hoped it was an inside dual. A front tire might be the death of you. As for the winch, more than once we had to winch a truck out of the mud. With out a winch, you were doomed when the sun went down.
Plus a five ton with the governor removed will crack the 100 mile per hour mark easily. Speed often saves lives. The M35 was slow just like the Jeep.
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Plus a five ton with the governor removed will crack the 100 mile per hour mark easily. Speed often saves lives. The M35 was slow just like the Jeep.
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