I see that Tumpeter has released two 2S7 kits. Soviet 2S7M Self-Propelled Gun 05592 and Soviet 2S7 Self-Propelled Gun 05593. Does anyone know what the differences are? Kit wise? According to Trumpeter's own website the 05592 kit has 980+ parts while the 05593 kit has 1000+ parts. But their product introductions are the same. I have tried looking on line to see if anyone has done a comparison but I have not been able to locate one. (I am looking at you Perth Military Modelling.) Thanks for any help.

The actual 2S7M Pion has an improved gun fire control system, increased rate of fire to 2.5 rounds per minute, and increased on-board ammunition load to eight projectiles over only four on the original design.

I don't know how Trumpeter has treated this, but the main differences should be in the ammo storage area.

I must profess I have both but haven't directly compared them yet. You can compare the kits and the instructions from these two sites:

http://www.model-making.eu/products/Soviet-2S7M-Self-Propelled-Gun.html

http://www.militarymodelling.com/news/article/soviet-2s7-spg-in-1-35/22543

Section 25 of plans is one area where they differ.

HTH
Andy

Thank you for that information. After looking at both websites it appears that the road wheels, track return rollers and some of the suspension arms are different (but the instructions show the same exact picture). Kit 05592 Sprues A and Kit 05593 sprues E1. And the section where the barrel rests just above the crew compartment (the step #25 like you mentioned). These are the only differences that I see. They seem very minor. Again thank you for your help.

The 2S7 was based on T-80 parts. The 2S7M was based on T-80B parts. So the difference is somewhat noticable, but probably only to those who really care.

The big news is...you get T-80 initial wheels. THAT could mean something for the future...

I'm building the 2S7 right now and I have a question for you Soviet builders.
I read a statement way back when that the Soviets use a very pale light green for the interior color and not white or ivory. I can't find the article again to verify so i'm asking for your help.

Thanks
Tony lee

I signed up to build one for a review and so I've been doing a bit of research on the Pion:
and I found a few shots on a LARGE walkaround page (army.lv ...? ) the interior looks off-white or grey. In the WWP they show two different colors grey and light-cream.

299 photo Walkaround:
http://army.lv/ru/2s7/foto/740/23/1
also see prime portal ..but I don't remember if they had any interiors.

In my searches photos of interior only are rare; and I'm not sure, but there were also some peeks in a few videos from a Ukraine tank show where the tankers gave some rides to a few in the crowd
Start here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRg4KGXSUyQ and then look through all the recommendations.

general info:
http://topwar.ru/25119-sau-povyshennogo-moguschestva-2s7-pion-2s7m-malka.html

http://topwar.ru/23819-bog-voyny-s-yadernym-gostincem-sau-2s7-pion.html

http://kollektsiya.ru/artilleriya/448-sau-2s7-pion-2s7m-malka-203-mm-samokhodnaya-pushka.html

Also try https://www.google.ru ,,,, and type/copy in this:
203-мм самоходное орудие 2С7

open a interesting photo in Its Original page..
found some REALLY interesting things that way
(1,529 Pion only images found in the last month binging the internet...lol)

I just took a cusory glance through half theimages I have and there are a couple of mini pictures showing the pages of the new Wings and Wheels Publication...
"G 043 PION 2S7 in detail" there are shots of the driver compartment and the gunner's position.... https://armorama.kitmaker.net/review/11614

Thanks Mr.Johnsen

I've found any number of colors from the time period from a dark mustard,several shades of grey,white and a light green or blue green.

I appreciate you taking the time to reply to my question but it seems the color falls under the "What ever was handy" category

Thanks again
Tony lee

The problem isn't so much a "they used what was handy" issue as much as the fact that when the gun was in Soviet service it was considered a sensitive vehicle because it could fire nuclear shells. Not completely restricted like a ICBM launcher, but they did not want people taking pictures inside the cab, etc. Now, with the fall of the Soviet Union, people started to get access to these vehicles, but they are often "retired" pieces that have been "restored", which often is with "whatever is handy". Museum pieces often have to be treated as observe once, check twice to make sure that what they show is actually what was present.

Now add to this that the non-Russian armies often had their own SOP on how to paint the vehicles in their service, etc...

All that said, I would guess that the interior of the 2S7 would either that same color pale green as the SCUD-B is often seen, or the off white noted in the WWP publication reviewed here on Armorama. Just remember that any surface that would be exposed or cause exposure would NOT be painted off white (think hatch interior surfaces, door interior surfaces, etc. When opened, and if white, they stick out like a sore thumb).

Happy Painting.

Thanks Jacques, I decided to go with a very very light grey.
The Trumpeter 2S7 or "M" is a lot of kit so be prepared to spend a lot of time building it.

Thanks again for the info guys
Tony lee

Took a bit but this is one of the best videos of the interior...

https://youtu.be/j4qmpj5Agcg

Thank You Mr Johnsen.
My light grey is good then.

Tony lee