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Posted: Thursday, December 17, 2015 - 09:27 PM UTC


Well it has now been announced by ICM that they are currently working on a set of World War One American Infantry. This set finally sees the US enter the war and is very welcome News.

Read the Full News Story

If you have comments or questions please post them here.

Thanks!
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Posted: Thursday, December 17, 2015 - 09:31 PM UTC
Nice release, these look good.
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Posted: Thursday, December 17, 2015 - 10:04 PM UTC
Getting together with an FT-17?
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Posted: Thursday, December 17, 2015 - 10:23 PM UTC
Doughboys- YES!
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Posted: Thursday, December 17, 2015 - 10:56 PM UTC
I beleive the Americans used the Mk.V during WW1, so a couple of WW1 American tanker figures and this set would make a great diorama.

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Posted: Friday, December 18, 2015 - 12:28 AM UTC
It is about bloody time!!
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Posted: Friday, December 18, 2015 - 01:27 AM UTC
......

But the Americans did use the FT-17 during WW I.

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Posted: Friday, December 18, 2015 - 01:56 AM UTC
Heinrick you are 100% right, usa used and help build ft-17, look at ford ass'y.
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Posted: Friday, December 18, 2015 - 07:05 PM UTC

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Nice release, these look good.



ABSOLUTELY!!! This set, perhaps several of them are definitely in my future! I wonder if ICM was thoughtful enough to include enough "fore-and-aft" caps and the British-style Mk.I Steel Helmets for these Doughboys? I hope so- it would save some out-sourcing... In any case, FINALLY the US is represented with this set! I wonder if ICM has an "in action" set of Doughs coming in the future?
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Posted: Friday, December 18, 2015 - 07:12 PM UTC

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Heinrick you are 100% right, usa used and help build ft-17, look at ford ass'y.



The FT-17s that the AEF used in actual combat were supplied by the French Army. Guess who was in charge of the US "Armored Force" that actually saw combat?

Lt.Colonel George S. Patton!!! And, to wit: Patton toured all over France in 1913, making careful notes of roads and good "tank country"!!! The man was ahead of his time...
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Posted: Friday, December 18, 2015 - 07:13 PM UTC

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Well it has now been announced by ICM that they are currently working on a set of World War One American Infantry. This set finally sees the US enter the war and is very welcome News.

Read the Full News Story

If you have comments or questions please post them here.

Thanks!



THANKS for the "heads-up", Darren!
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Posted: Friday, December 18, 2015 - 08:07 PM UTC
Please note the box (1917) so these are the US troops as they first appeared in Europe with the laced gaiters and campaign hats. The fore and aft hats were originally sourced from sources as varied as Belgium and France sometimes complete with tassels. They were in all kinds of shapes and sizes so you could use just about anything for them.


Nothing saying you couldn't get the gasmasks and helmets from another set and put them in the trenches but that'd be early US involvement not the later 1918 offensives.


And now there is a source for lemon squeezer hats for later New Zealand troops.
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Posted: Friday, December 18, 2015 - 08:57 PM UTC

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Getting together with an FT-17?



Or a Ford T ambulance (also released by Resicast)...



H.P.
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Posted: Saturday, December 19, 2015 - 08:10 AM UTC

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Please note the box (1917) so these are the US troops as they first appeared in Europe with the laced gaiters and campaign hats. The fore and aft hats were originally sourced from sources as varied as Belgium and France sometimes complete with tassels. They were in all kinds of shapes and sizes so you could use just about anything for them.


Nothing saying you couldn't get the gasmasks and helmets from another set and put them in the trenches but that'd be early US involvement not the later 1918 offensives.


And now there is a source for lemon squeezer hats for later New Zealand troops.



Photos do exist with Doughboys wearing the laced Leggings AND British Mk.I Helmets in 1917, as they completed their training in France. The wrap-around Puttees that we are familiar with as seen in many of the 1918 photographs of US Troops came a little later.

Officers were required to furnish their own footwear and "Garrison Uniforms", (Class A), which were Khaki, were hand-tailored and cut in finer cloth, rather than the rough wool that Enlisted Ranks were issued. These Officers' Khaki Uniforms should not be confused with the hand-tailored BLUE "Mess Uniforms", which were worn for formal State Occasions, Formal Dances, Weddings, Award Ceremonies, etc. The Officers' Khaki Uniforms were made in two styles, with "open collars", worn with shirt and tie, and in a "stand-up collar" style. Light Summer Whites were also worn in Summer and warmer climates. These Summer Whites were also hand-tailored, and fitted with the same two styles of collars as the Khaki Uniforms. The Blue Mess Uniforms were made in three styles; with "stand-up collar", "open collar" and "open collar" with conventional tails, and in a formal "Tuxedo" style, i.e short-waisted with long tails...

These different Officers' Uniforms were expensive, and young Officers were hard put to buy and maintain them, unless they were wealthy.

In the case of the US Marines, "Dress Blues" were privately purchased by Enlisted and Officer personnel, alike...

The Riding Boots of the Officers were made by different manufacturers and were usually finished in tanned Russet Brown, or in a warm "Yellowish Brown", either in a conventional "full lace-up" style from the bottom up to the top, or in a partial "lace-up" style, which reached to the top of the ankle, over which matching leather "side-buckle-up calves" were fastened. These Riding Boots reached to just below the knee, as seen with the "lace-up" Riding Boots. "Sam Browne" Belts could be tanned either in Russet Brown, or in the aforementioned "Yellowish Brown"...

Billed "Garrison Caps" were made in Khaki, White, and Blue, whereas US-made "fore-and-aft" caps were made in Khaki only, and were seen in the US even before the United States Army formed the AEF...

Campaign Hats, both Officers' and Enlisted Troops', came into use in the 1880s and continued to be used by all personnel until shortly after Pearl Harbor. As we all know, Campaign Hats are still in use today by the US Army's and US Marines' Drill Instructors...
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Posted: Saturday, December 19, 2015 - 10:53 PM UTC
that's about the first time I see them in styrene.
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Posted: Saturday, December 19, 2015 - 11:50 PM UTC

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Billed "Garrison Caps" were made in Khaki, White, and Blue, whereas US-made "fore-and-aft" caps were made in Khaki only, and were seen in the US even before the United States Army formed the AEF...





The overseas cap was called overseas because it first was only to be worn overseas according to US uniform regulations. It was not authorized for wear in CONUS until 1940 except by returning troops who had served overseas? A couple of different sources say that but there are photos of troops in CONUS wearing them so they are all returning troops with overseas service? Or guys pretending to be something they're not?


It was copied from the French bonet de police which went back to the 18th century. In October 1917 the First Infantry Division had not received theirs so it was noted by a division staff officer that they wore tasseled khaki Belgian caps, campaign hats with the brim cut off or Alpine troops dark blue caps. A few wore bath towels wrapped around their head.


A photograph of five officers of the 18th Infantry in 1918 shows three types of overseas cap in use. Only one appears to be the US M1918 garrison cap?


In photos it is easy to recognize troops going overseas as opposed to those returning. Those outbound wear campaign hats, those inbound wear overseas caps.
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