Darren Baker takes a look at an interesting figure set released by ICM of Moroccan Goumier Rifles in 1/35th scale from the period of World War 2.
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Moroccan Goumier RiflesPosted: Sunday, January 17, 2016 - 01:46 AM UTC
Paulinsibculo
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Posted: Sunday, January 17, 2016 - 01:50 AM UTC
Has anyone a clue about the vehicles they used, please?
Seems to be a very nice set to break the olive tones.
Seems to be a very nice set to break the olive tones.
Kinggeorges
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Posted: Sunday, January 17, 2016 - 01:20 PM UTC
Hello,
Goumier were pure infantry. No vehicule. They used a lot of mules.I mean a LOT.
British plate helmet was pretty standard, they didn't use M1 helmet nor they received any garand rifle, specially in 1943. Only springfield or mas36 rifles.
They mostly had nails, or french boots. They didn't have that much us equipment in 1943. Mostly french and uk, and old us one.
Julien
Goumier were pure infantry. No vehicule. They used a lot of mules.I mean a LOT.
British plate helmet was pretty standard, they didn't use M1 helmet nor they received any garand rifle, specially in 1943. Only springfield or mas36 rifles.
They mostly had nails, or french boots. They didn't have that much us equipment in 1943. Mostly french and uk, and old us one.
Julien
Posted: Sunday, January 17, 2016 - 02:26 PM UTC
Julien; with you being French I bow to your superior knowledge, I will say however that the information I came across indicated that a mix of US infantry equipment was the norm for this unit when in Italy.
Posted: Sunday, January 17, 2016 - 07:27 PM UTC
Thrilled that ICM continues to issue unique subjects! Aside from some metal and possibly resin 1/35 models, the only other injection-molded Goumiers I know of are the Heller pair. I hope that ICM continues this series of colonial and 'special' troops.
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Saturday, January 23, 2016 - 04:03 PM UTC
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Darren Baker takes a look at an interesting figure set released by ICM of Moroccan Goumier Rifles in 1/35th scale from the period of World War 2.
Link to Item
If you have comments or questions please post them here.
Thanks!
HI, Darren! Thanks for the "heads-up"! These Goumiers are quite welcome, as far as I'm concerned! The discrepancies in their weaponry can be easily remedied and the figures themselves provide a very good base for simple conversions...
As a side note- According to Edwin Hoyt, author of "The GI's War", American GIs were quite taken aback by the Goumiers' habits, appearance and especially by their behavior when dealing with Germans that they had taken as prisoners of war. I won't go into detail, but German POWs didn't have a very long life-expectancy when captured by Goumiers...
ropeynz
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Posted: Saturday, January 23, 2016 - 05:02 PM UTC
The goumiers in Italy were equipped, supplied and supported predominantly by the US. The French colonial troops had a horrendous reputation in Italy which negated their outstanding military feats. Ask a citizen of La Ciocciara what they think of Goums. (Or watch the movie Two Sisters starring Sophia Loren.) I believe Goum is an organisational description rather than a nationality: sort of a tribal grouping.
Paulinsibculo
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Posted: Saturday, January 23, 2016 - 07:40 PM UTC
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The goumiers in Italy were equipped, supplied and supported predominantly by the US. The French colonial troops had a horrendous reputation in Italy which negated their outstanding military feats. Ask a citizen of La Ciocciara what they think of Goums. (Or watch the movie Two Sisters starring Sophia Loren.) I believe Goum is an organisational description rather than a nationality: sort of a tribal grouping.
Vittorio de Sicca's Two Women (1960) is the right title!
ropeynz
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Posted: Saturday, January 23, 2016 - 10:38 PM UTC
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Vittorio de Sicca's Two Women (1960) is the right title!
Oops. Close but no cigar. Thanks for the correction.