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Updated! Tamiya: AMX-13 and M109
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Posted: Thursday, January 28, 2016 - 04:44 AM UTC


Tamiya has shown at he Nuremberg Toy Fair their new releases, including two armour kits: A French AMX-13 and a German M109A3G.

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Posted: Thursday, January 28, 2016 - 05:20 AM UTC
Also they show off the Su-76 at N-berg too. It looks nice
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Posted: Thursday, January 28, 2016 - 05:32 AM UTC
If the AMX and SU-76 are both new Tooled Tamiya,they are on my list
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Posted: Thursday, January 28, 2016 - 05:55 AM UTC
The M109 is an Italeri rebox (with a few new parts) from the 1980s. I'd ignore and go for the AFV club or even Kinetic version.
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Posted: Thursday, January 28, 2016 - 06:45 AM UTC
The SU-76M and AMX-13 are completely new tool items.

Apparently, the Paladin will be one of the few M109A3G kits around, beside it there's the Revell kit which was allegedly based on the Italeri kit according to Scalemates. It would be welcome if someone were to compare the two.
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Posted: Thursday, January 28, 2016 - 08:59 AM UTC

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Apparently, the Paladin will be one of the few M109A3G kits around, beside it there's the Revell kit which was allegedly based on the Italeri kit according to Scalemates. It would be welcome if someone were to compare the two.



The M109A3G is not a Paladin. The Paladin is the M109A6. All of the Tamiya M109 versions (M109, M109A3G, & M109A6 Paladin) are all reboxed Italeri kits, with a few new pieces and some previously released Tamiya gear and figures from other kits.

The Revell M109s (M109A3G and M109A6 Paladin) are also reboxed Italeri kits with no upgrades. The Paladin does include a Mk 19 grenade launcher that is not in the original Italeri kit though.

The AFV Club M109A2 and M109A6 Paladin are all new molds not related to any other kits.

Kinetic's M109A2 is also all new molds not related to any other kits as well.
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Posted: Thursday, January 28, 2016 - 08:36 PM UTC
two real nice subjects, and yes I saw the Su-76 kit all three with new tool will be welcome addition to the modelers .
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Posted: Thursday, January 28, 2016 - 08:43 PM UTC

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two real nice subjects, and yes I saw the Su-76 kit all three with new tool will be welcome addition to the modelers .



I don't know about the others, but if you read above, you will see that the M109A3G has no new-tooling. It is a rebox of the Italeri M109A3G with a couple previously released Tamiya figures and a few pieces of previously released Tamiya gear.
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Posted: Thursday, January 28, 2016 - 10:04 PM UTC
We got the updated text and descriptions and they have been added to the story. And Gino they are saying there are updated parts (so new tooling) in the M109A3G kit. I know that will make you at least curious.
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Posted: Thursday, January 28, 2016 - 11:52 PM UTC
AFAIK the M109A3G is a straight rebox of the old Revell kit.

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/121595-revell-03016-155mm-pzh-m109a3ga1

This was the Italeri kit with some additional Italeri-tooled parts for the German boxing. So the 'new' parts have been seen before, but not under the Italeri label.

EDIT: I guess the crew are Tamiya parts.
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Posted: Friday, January 29, 2016 - 01:00 AM UTC

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And Gino they are saying there are updated parts (so new tooling) in the M109A3G kit. I know that will make you at least curious.



Nope, not really. I have seen the "new tool" parts in the other M109 releases and am not impressed. I'll stick with AFV Club's excellent M109s and can convert them into any other version I may want.
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Posted: Friday, January 29, 2016 - 02:05 AM UTC
OOOH!OOOH! Here's some completely useless tank trivia! Out at the Grafenwohr(Graf-en-veer) ranges there were some derelict AMX13s laying around before they were towed into the firing lanes for use as hard targets. I took the opportunity to inspect it. T&E was removed as was the manual cycling drive for the gun, but it had room for plenty of 75 ammo. The feed was a complicated mechanism, and ammo was cycled from two side-by-side 6 or 7 round cylindrical racks. The chosen round then traveled on a multi-part(flexible) pathway to the breechblock. Elegant, but the whole thing was unshielded and very dangerous looking; I didn't see any guards or mounting spots for them on the assembly. And, for those who are curious, the real vehicle is as devoid of any real detail as the kits' parts appear. I took a pic in the 70s, stuffed in one of my ammo cans....
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Posted: Friday, January 29, 2016 - 04:40 PM UTC
The AMX has been pushed back to May.
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Posted: Friday, January 29, 2016 - 07:01 PM UTC
I like the AMX-13.
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Posted: Friday, January 29, 2016 - 07:33 PM UTC
why does Tamiya rebox all those low grade Italeri kits?
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Posted: Friday, January 29, 2016 - 08:08 PM UTC
Because it's inexpensive for them and the Tamiya name sells kits in Asia?
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Posted: Saturday, January 30, 2016 - 07:35 AM UTC
AFAIK this is the best image of Tamiya's AMX-13 out there, apparently taken at their head office: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZyNzN-UEAA9kpT.jpg:orig

Looking at the parts layout in Nuremberg, it appears to have a pre-cut PE grille for the radial cooling fan.
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Posted: Saturday, January 30, 2016 - 02:06 PM UTC

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AFAIK this is the best image of Tamiya's AMX-13 out there, apparently taken at their head office: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZyNzN-UEAA9kpT.jpg:orig

Looking at the parts layout in Nuremberg, it appears to have a pre-cut PE grille for the radial cooling fan.



The circular grille is nice but I fear Tamiya do not give the four rectangular ones. I haven't seen any of them on the model displayed at Nuremberg. They'll probably sell them as a separate set.
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