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Posted: Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 08:33 PM UTC
Your Merk is looking fantastic, nice progress.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 - 06:54 PM UTC
looking really good!!!!

Humvee's can wait!it's main battle tank time!
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Posted: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 - 12:09 AM UTC

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Jay - great tanks, but... what about Your Humvees?



Hi Buddy, Will go back to the Humvees after I finish those tanks! Jay
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Posted: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 - 12:09 AM UTC

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Your Merk is looking fantastic, nice progress.



Thanks Carlos! Jay
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Posted: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 - 12:10 AM UTC

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looking really good!!!!

Humvee's can wait!it's main battle tank time!



Thanks man! Jay
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Posted: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 - 12:12 AM UTC
Tamiya Leopard 2 a6, turret is done.

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Posted: Monday, May 16, 2016 - 10:53 PM UTC
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Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 - 10:46 PM UTC
Meng Leopard 2 a7 open box, looks nice. My order from Hobbyeasy should arrive in 2 weeks hopefully.

http://www.moxdao.com/thread-14250-1-1.html

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Posted: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 02:11 AM UTC
Interesting.......Details are missing.

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Posted: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 11:32 PM UTC
I guess meng is recalling those PE parts, Email them to get the replacement if the new parts are not included.
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Posted: Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 09:24 PM UTC
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Posted: Monday, May 23, 2016 - 01:58 AM UTC

weird...inside the red circle they give you a detail belong to upgraded version of those Leopard. Here is the thing. Tamiya one gives you a version which is belong to "late version" of that maintain window. which is welded structure. at the very beginning that area is sealed by bolts, in later upgrade those early version(which sealed by bolts) on that area were all welded base on the existed structure, so the bolts are still there. these maybe right since those A7 are upgraded from A6NL and A6M, However, these feature also appeared on their batch 8 Leopard 2 A4 Kit....
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Posted: Monday, May 23, 2016 - 03:11 AM UTC
Those bolts are on most of my A7 ref pics though.

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Posted: Monday, May 23, 2016 - 06:27 AM UTC
If any of you are looking for walk arounds, Hans has a wonderful site for it.

http://www.panzer-modell.de

Jay
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Posted: Monday, May 23, 2016 - 01:24 PM UTC
I have a review of this here: http://leopardclub.ca/reviews/Meng/2A7/ and it will be on Armorama soon as well.
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Posted: Monday, May 23, 2016 - 09:32 PM UTC
Thanks Michael.

Meng has fine details on the lower hull, it matched my Ref pic.

New files 1

Eduard shows different configuration?
Pages from 36028

Return rollers are in different position.

New file P

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Posted: Monday, May 23, 2016 - 09:42 PM UTC
Radiator cover
Left side is the meng PE, right side is the AM PE.

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Posted: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 - 01:52 AM UTC

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weird...inside the red circle they give you a detail belong to upgraded version of those Leopard. Here is the thing. Tamiya one gives you a version which is belong to "late version" of that maintain window. which is welded structure. at the very beginning that area is sealed by bolts, in later upgrade those early version(which sealed by bolts) on that area were all welded base on the existed structure, so the bolts are still there. these maybe right since those A7 are upgraded from A6NL and A6M, However, these feature also appeared on their batch 8 Leopard 2 A4 Kit....



That is not quite correct ... the A7s are all EX-Dutch 2A6 which are bolted but have no weld seams:



From what I can identity from R. Zwillings splendid book on the 2A7 it is still not welded just sealed.
If you don't have the book try this: http://www.panzer-modell.de under "Referenzen" and then in "In Detail".
There is a gap/recess which is filled with some sealant material .... apparently only a few bolted ones got welded shut, by the Germans in addition, but this practice seemed to have stopped very early during the refurbishment from A4s to A5 & 6 wenn all welded hulls (5th Batch onwards) had been already processed and upgraded. The Germans then having to use hulls from earlier beatches and bring these hulls to Batch 5+ (upgraded hull armor) standards as well.
The Dutch upgraded their own tanks from A4 to A5 and then A6 standard.



As with the A4 MENG took a shortcut and got it wrong and it seems this mistake (remove bolts or create a gap/recess) has been reproduced on the A7 kit.
But the A7s are (all bolted) Dutch hulls from earlier A4 production batches.
So to replicate a correct A7 as to date you would have to remove the weld seams and create a gap with sealant filler .... HobbyBoss got it right on their 2A4 CAN.

Cheers
Christopher
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Posted: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 - 02:21 AM UTC
Thank you Christopher for pointing it out, I will try to remove the weld seams , hope it won't be too hard. Please let us know if there are more mistakes.

Jay
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Posted: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 - 02:38 AM UTC

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Thank you Christopher for pointing it out, I will try to remove the weld seams , hope it won't be too hard. Please let us know if there are more mistakes.

Jay



Careful ! This is just my observation confirmed by a friend of mine, a German officer, who saw the A7 first hand and came to the same conclusion.
But if they actually did weld the gap shut then it defiantly looks very different / much smoother and finer than on the MENG kit .... maybe Ralph Zwilling could shed some light on this matter .... I do wish it actually is a weld seam of some sort ... would make thing much easier.

Cheers
Christopher
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Posted: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 - 04:18 PM UTC
Different return roller configuration is correct, see page 134 in the Tankograd Leopard 2 book.
Meng configuration is early configuration up to 4th batch, while the Tamiya configuration is 5th batch onwards.

Reagrding the the welded cover, I think Meng got it right, but overpronounced the weld seam. Up to 4th batch, the cover was bolted and had a seal. From 5th batch onwards the cover was welded without bolts. Later conversions kept the bolts, but the cover was welded, too. Also found on page 134.

So, the hull is a 1st- 4th batch configuration, which was upgraded. One of you guys can check from which batch(es) the ex- Dutch Leopards are.

Thomas
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Posted: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 - 11:06 PM UTC
Thanks Thomas.

Jay
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Posted: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 - 11:13 PM UTC

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Thank you Christopher for pointing it out, I will try to remove the weld seams , hope it won't be too hard. Please let us know if there are more mistakes.

Jay



Careful ! This is just my observation confirmed by a friend of mine, a German officer, who saw the A7 first hand and came to the same conclusion.
But if they actually did weld the gap shut then it defiantly looks very different / much smoother and finer than on the MENG kit .... maybe Ralph Zwilling could shed some light on this matter .... I do wish it actually is a weld seam of some sort ... would make thing much easier.

Cheers
Christopher



Thanks Christopher!

First time working on Meng's plastic and it was not that easy to remove the weld seams, sanding that area also was tricky cause the bolts were in the way.

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Posted: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 - 11:24 AM UTC
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Posted: Thursday, May 26, 2016 - 04:17 AM UTC
The fit of the top hull to the bottom is just ok to me as you can see the gap, it shouldn't be a problem at all once you glue those parts together though, however, I think Tamiya did a better job.

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