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AFV Painting & Weathering
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British AVF Color?
Armour66
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Posted: Monday, February 02, 2004 - 02:50 AM UTC
I was wondering if there is a Tamiya color that I could use or modify to get close to British Sand FS 33434?

Thanks.
greatbrit
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Posted: Monday, February 02, 2004 - 03:16 AM UTC
if its for a modern vehicle you could use xf60 dark yellow, lightened a bit,

i think the colour depends on the vehicle, for example, challys are painted in a more orange colour, warriors are usually a very stark yellow colour,
have a look at these pics, note the differences







cheers

joe
Armour66
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Posted: Monday, February 02, 2004 - 03:33 AM UTC
Just what iwas looking for, Thanks Joe.
Stormbringer
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Posted: Monday, February 02, 2004 - 01:12 PM UTC
Hi there
If you look at this previous thread you'll see a pic of a Chally 2 that is quite yellow in colour

AFV colour

I'm actually experimenting with painting mine in Humbrol #81 Matt Pale Yellow
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Pete
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Posted: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 12:04 AM UTC
Hi, Joe,

Like I said before, it is not possible to judge the exact color in a photo. The color is affected by the color temperature of the location, the camera used, film type(if it is used instead of a digital camera), the setting of the camera, as well as the color profile and color management system of the software.

I do some calibration to the images you posted. Of course without a reference I can't do it very exact, for example, the photo with the Rover still looks too redish to me,judging by the faces. If I reduce the red too compensate for the color of the face, then the car would not be so orange. (the problem is, I don't know the real skin tone of the 2 gentlemen, but I guess it looks too pink for someone in the field)

Besides, the color looks different when you view them with different softwares, and with different monitors or display cards.

But anyway, from the photos I've seen and the image files I have examined, I agree Tamiya XF60 should be quite close, when mixed with lillte white or pale gray. Another way is add some yellow to sand.






greatbrit
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Posted: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 12:12 AM UTC
i appreciate what you say yorkie, and you are indeed correct, but like i said before, the pictures are very close,

in the run upto the war, i , and i suppose most other british motorway users, saw many of the vehicles used on their way to ports etc, and they all differed in colour,

even vehicles on the same low loader trucks were different shades.

cheers

joe
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Posted: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 12:32 AM UTC
Hi, Joe,

That's what I am thinking. Any where between Sand and Dark Yellow can be used for Op-Telic vehicles. (desert Yellow will be too greenish)

I think paint varies from batch to batch, especially when they need to get a large quantity in short notice.

Just like what I am doing now, dress manufacturing, cloth with a same specification may varies in color slightly from batch to batch.
greatbrit
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Posted: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 12:35 AM UTC
your right yorkie,

some of the vehicles were painted in rather thick coats with paintbrushes, so will be more yellow,

some were sprayed so had thinner coats, so the green will still show through.

some of the applications were very messy, and missed entire areas of the vehicle,

ill look for some pics to show you what i mean

cheers

joe
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Posted: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 10:35 AM UTC
Light, method of application and differing paint batches all have a role to play.

"Traditional Desert Yellow"?:


Whilst this appears more "yellow":

Has anybody tried White Ensigns "Gulf Light Stone"? http://www.whiteensignmodels.com/acatalog/index.html?http%3A//www.whiteensignmodels.com/acatalog/catalogbody.html&CatalogBody

I have added a few more photos to "My Gallery" of Op Telic Challengers and Warriors. All are from MoD or BBC website.
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