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ICM: Magirus S330 Truck
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2016 - 11:11 PM UTC


ICM has announced that they are working on a Post War German Magirus S330 Truck. ICM has also announced that they are in the process of shipping out their German Armoured Vehicle Crew (1941-1942) and G4 (1935 production), WWII German Staff Car.

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Posted: Friday, March 04, 2016 - 06:37 PM UTC
THANKS... I C M, the detail on all of these looks real good, plus the figures.
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Posted: Friday, March 04, 2016 - 11:45 PM UTC
I may be wrong but I think that the designation "S 330" was used before and during WWII and that the truck was called S 3000 in 1949.
Nice to get a model of this truck all the same (never mind the deisgnation)
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Posted: Saturday, March 05, 2016 - 03:01 PM UTC
S330 or L3000S, the cab shape looks very suspicious
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Posted: Saturday, March 05, 2016 - 07:07 PM UTC

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I may be wrong but I think that the designation "S 330" was used before and during WWII and that the truck was called S 3000 in 1949.
Nice to get a model of this truck all the same (never mind the deisgnation)
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Nope, the opposite: it was KHD S3000 originally and Magirus S330 later.
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Posted: Saturday, March 05, 2016 - 07:08 PM UTC

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S330 or L3000S, the cab shape looks very suspicious

Mercedes L3000S was a completely different truck.
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Posted: Saturday, March 05, 2016 - 07:19 PM UTC

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it was KHD S3000 originally and Magirus S330 later.


I'm not sure about that, Pawel. This manual was published in 1940 (according to the seller ) :



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Posted: Saturday, March 05, 2016 - 08:24 PM UTC

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S330 or L3000S, the cab shape looks very suspicious

Mercedes L3000S was a completely different truck.

Did I write somewhere it is Mercedes?


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Nope, the opposite: it was KHD S3000 originally and Magirus S330 later.


Can't agree here. The Ulm-based company was ever KHD and their vehicles were ever marketed with the brand name Magirus.
Also, the models in concern were S330 and A330 first; later, due to the unification under the Schell programm, they were redesignated S3000 and A3000, or L3000A and L3000S (where L is for Lastwagen).
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Posted: Saturday, March 05, 2016 - 09:47 PM UTC

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it was KHD S3000 originally and Magirus S330 later.


I'm not sure about that, Pawel. This manual was published in 1940 (according to the seller ) :

Okay, I checked some references and I believe that S3000 and A3000 were military versions (i.e. standardized according to Schell program requirements) and S330/A330 were civilian
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Posted: Saturday, March 05, 2016 - 10:05 PM UTC

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S3000 and A3000, or L3000A and L3000S (where L is for Lastwagen).

I don't think the L3000S designation was ever used for KHD truck. They were S3000 or 3000S. L3000S was a Daimler Benz designation for their Schell program Mercedes truck.
B3000S was Borgward, V3000S was Ford and E3000 was MAN - all 3 ton trucks under the Schell program.
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Posted: Saturday, March 05, 2016 - 10:41 PM UTC
There is a German military document D 666/8 dated 28 January 1943 which oficially changed the designation of 330 model to "Lastkraftwagen 3-to Magirus Baumuster Klöckner S3000/A3000".
Talking about that L3000S/A I'm ready to agree it probably wasn't applicable with Magirus, I may fall victim of some incorrect reference. This doesn't change the suspicious cab shape anyway. Not to speak in 1949 the 330 models didn't exist from long time but tell this to ICM.
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Posted: Saturday, March 05, 2016 - 10:56 PM UTC
http://www.hansreckweg.dk/truckerlinks/engelsk/magirus.htm

The designations are confusing but I think that the 4 digit designations were used also after the war. The designation S330 seems to have been dropped during the war.
The webpage (linked above) claims that the trucks produced in 1948 (also 1949 ???) were very similar to the wartime trucks and that the cabin was changed 1951. I am not certain about when the one piece windshield appeared ( or if it was a divided windshield only in the years immediately after the war ??)
That radiator cap looks like it was inherited from the wartime trucks ....
/ Robin
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Posted: Sunday, March 06, 2016 - 02:37 AM UTC
Probably according to ICM a postwar truck with air-cooled engine looks more sexy with radiator cap...
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Posted: Sunday, March 06, 2016 - 09:21 AM UTC
Another 'gotta have'!
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